I can only argue with what you say. Since you used “man” and “male” interchangeably, my comment reflects that.
This is called moving the goalposts, since your original comment in this thread was arguing with someone who said they’d changed genders. Now you seem to agree someone can change genders, so I donno why we’re still arguing.
You said men couldn’t get pregnant, which is false. Then you said males couldn’t get pregnant, which is also false. Now you’re making this extremely specific claim:
No person born a biological male with testies has ever been surgercally/chemically altered (meaning a womb transplant basically) enough to be able to be impregnated and give birth
Which is a lot to unpack, and also incorrect. If we assume a “biological male with testes” is someone with XY chromosomes and gonads, yes, they have given birth. Look up XY Gonadal Dysgenesis, and you’ll find a small percentage of cases where women who are genetically male, occassionally with internal testes, who undergo hormone treatments and IVF to get pregnant. Some don’t have ovaries and have never menstruated.
A person is always born with 1 sex more developed than the other, basically testies or ovaries…
Is an ambiguous statement, and also not true. It really depends on how you define “developed” since sex traits aren’t always obvious in babies and a number of natural factors can drastically change those traits during puberty, even before taking into account medical intervention. Check out Guevadoces for one example.
Why is it so important for you to be right? Shouldn’t it be kind of exciting that this sort of thing can happen?
Okok its whatever, I didn’t use the right vernacular and verbiage on accident. It feels like a Lotta splitting hairs, double meaning, and yall changed the meaning of what it is to be a man even… but thats besides the point. I didn’t get my point across as well as I would have liked to, but im gonna sharpen up for next time I have a conversation like this, on this subject. But im done for now. God bless you
Fair enough and thank you for being civil. I responded to your claims by giving examples to back up my point, being specific because we’re discussing definitions.
I’m a cis woman and I didn’t change anything. Gender has always been a shifting social construct and our understanding of sex has benefitted from research, as has my own understanding of sex over the years.
Have a good one and I wish you luck. Please do check out pubmed (the earlier link I shared,) it has a lot of fantastic, accessible, peer reviewed research papers.
I can only argue with what you say. Since you used “man” and “male” interchangeably, my comment reflects that.
This is called moving the goalposts, since your original comment in this thread was arguing with someone who said they’d changed genders. Now you seem to agree someone can change genders, so I donno why we’re still arguing.
You said men couldn’t get pregnant, which is false. Then you said males couldn’t get pregnant, which is also false. Now you’re making this extremely specific claim:
Which is a lot to unpack, and also incorrect. If we assume a “biological male with testes” is someone with XY chromosomes and gonads, yes, they have given birth. Look up XY Gonadal Dysgenesis, and you’ll find a small percentage of cases where women who are genetically male, occassionally with internal testes, who undergo hormone treatments and IVF to get pregnant. Some don’t have ovaries and have never menstruated.
Is an ambiguous statement, and also not true. It really depends on how you define “developed” since sex traits aren’t always obvious in babies and a number of natural factors can drastically change those traits during puberty, even before taking into account medical intervention. Check out Guevadoces for one example.
Why is it so important for you to be right? Shouldn’t it be kind of exciting that this sort of thing can happen?
Okok its whatever, I didn’t use the right vernacular and verbiage on accident. It feels like a Lotta splitting hairs, double meaning, and yall changed the meaning of what it is to be a man even… but thats besides the point. I didn’t get my point across as well as I would have liked to, but im gonna sharpen up for next time I have a conversation like this, on this subject. But im done for now. God bless you
Fair enough and thank you for being civil. I responded to your claims by giving examples to back up my point, being specific because we’re discussing definitions.
I’m a cis woman and I didn’t change anything. Gender has always been a shifting social construct and our understanding of sex has benefitted from research, as has my own understanding of sex over the years.
Have a good one and I wish you luck. Please do check out pubmed (the earlier link I shared,) it has a lot of fantastic, accessible, peer reviewed research papers.