• KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      22 hours ago

      This is actually what Al Qaeda wanted - to provoke destabilization of the USA by baiting over-extension in the Middle East. War sucks for the people of all nations involved, and an empire in constant war will inevitably brew dissatisfaction and dissent among its people.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yep.

        9/11 worked.

        It did exactly what OBL wanted it to do, it drove us insane, got us to destroy ourselves and our institutions and economy, and collapsed our empire.

        Strategic victory achieved.

        Very very fucking messy and horrific, but it worked, it achieved its goals.

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        21 hours ago

        I think we were headed to our current state of affairs since Reagan, but the police state status was definitely accelerated by 9/11.

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        20 hours ago

        Pretty sure this is beyond what even their wildest dreams imagined could happen. The US has been punching itself bloody for a long time now.

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        Also helps that his plan also happened to coincide with Russia’s geopolitical plan, and China’s incentives for economic dominance.