2 year lifecycle and a 3 year payment plan.
The EU has already noticed. Manufacturers have to provide software updates for five years, for all new devices since June.
i thought it was more about making the older models shittier with updates. like apple limiting battery capacity, samsung slowing down and removing features, etc. i had s22u and it had tons of customization, you could put a calendar or a gif in the AOD but suddenly they removed it all, you could only change the color of the clock.
Is it possible / practical to go to a previous version of Always On Display?
since it’s a part of the samsung ui and there’s no way to roll back, no
My understanding of the message in the OP is that phone companies are making phones suck after 2 years using updates that make the phone slower, etc.
… Y’know, like Apple did a few years back.
What does “new device” mean?
It’s new devices coming onto the market. So if they existed before June but they are still being sold, the rules do not apply to them. But new models that are coming out now have to have software support.
Yeah that’s what I thought. That’s the language companies use in the U.S. anyway.
A device that isn’t old? 🤷🏻
And meanwhile Apple has been providing 6+ years of FULL updates for over a decade
But they’re the bad guys?
Not the point, but they’re the bad guys for other reasons. Walled garden, bad repairability etc. Their update policy is really solid, though.
Ah yes, that’s why they make apps unavailable for older devices with no way to install them besides some iTunes hack that I’m not sure works anymore.
How old devices are you trying to use?
And is it Apple or the app developer who hasn’t updated their app in a decade?
Apple are the ones who refuse to allow developers to deploy apps that run on older devices while also not allowing users to download previous versions of an app.
yes
If anyone thinks this is just a common meme, there have been lawsuits over this.
Example: https://pirg.org/articles/samsung-apple-fined-for-software-updates-that-slowed-phones/
My note 9 lasted a good 8 years… But yeah. Now when apps update, “your device is no longer supported” Wow okay fuck you too thanks a lot guys -.-
Apple supports their phones for at least 5 years. iPhone XS from 2018 is still supported by the current version of iOS. As iOS 26 just came out, that means 8 years of software support.
Including deliberate and unnecessary performance decreasing updates
Edit: sourceWith iOS 12.1, Apple has brought its controversial “performance management feature” (aka, throttling) to the iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and iPhone X. This functionality dynamically throttles the phone’s processor as its battery degrades over time to stop the handset from randomly shutting down
Its literally a feature to improve the longevity of the device. And if you really hate it you can either replace the degraded battery (in which case it will automatically return to the factory clock speed) or disable the feature and experience device instability. Would you rather your phone randomly crash and shut off on you or would you prefer to keep 50Mhz of clock speed?
Rocking my iPhone 11 Pro Max with OG battery.
Reckon I can get through easy until the 18 or the Fold.
No idea what you’re talking about.
No idea what you’re talking about.
They’re referring to an old controversy that was a mixture of bad decisions and conspiracy. They’ve now linked an article to the outcome of it. I won’t cover the whole thing but Apple “let slip” and “admitted” to slowing down old phones. This obviously feeds into the planned obsolescence conspiracies but at the time it wasn’t exactly hidden, Apple (one of their higher ups though I can’t think of who) said they were doing it.
The real issue was that it was implemented without transparency. The point is the device underclocks to prevent unexpected shut downs which makes it slower as a trade off for stability. Devices still do this, but it’s now shown in the settings and warns that the battery needs replacing.
Ha same, I keep saying I’ll upgrade next generation and it’s always underwhelming. Especially now that they’ve been huffing their own farts about ai. My battery capacity is at 70% of what it originally had what’s yours at?
82% and it gets me through the day no issues!
Iphone 5 had this problem, also ipad mini 1
No, you see you aren’t using technology the right way.
You need to hate Apple and instead buy a product that isn’t as good to stick it to them, then you can complain about this stuff with everyone else.
The link literally describes them slowing the phones down to maintain reasonable battery life. That’s a perfectly acceptable tradeoff
Unfortunately apple is a walled garden
I want my garden to have walls
You can keep your walls and apple can let other people take those walls down. It could easily be a win/win. If they did that, they would capture a lot of android market.
I also have a lot of older relatives who I can let roam in the Apple Walled Garden and be 99.95% sure they can’t fuck anything up by installing a sus app.
I only have to train them on phishing.
That’s whataboutism though. If we’re discussing the topic of the post, Apple actually has a great track record.
I know it’s not the topic. I just wanted to say that it is useless for me despite it’s update policy.
Microsoft for example can offer a great Microsoft Office experience that has all the AI agents I ever wanted - but as a Linux user that doesn’t help.
Also Ford can make a car that is really great for saving fuel - much better than Peugeot - but I only ride bikes.
You can call it whatboutism, but for me it’s just a shitty product I do not need.
Yeah but they make their devices terribly slow. I had a 8 y/o Oneplus 5 with Lineage OS 22.2 which was running as fast as my iPhone 13 pro with iOS 26 — which wasn’t the case 3 years back when I bought the iPhone. Unfortunately the motherboard of OP5 is dead because of wear & tear due to everyday use and is not worth the repair cost. So yeah, even my Oneplus 5 got 8 years of software updates (although not officially) and may get some more if the LineageOS team would still maintain it.
Software updates are using carrots (?) to lure in mobile phones?
Edit: no wait, that’s a finger, I think. I don’t know what the software updates are holding.
Thats a knife
That’s what the software updates are holding behind their back. I’m talking about the thing in front, which looks like a lure for the phones
We need a phone that runs Debian stable.
I don’t believe software updates are skillful enough to catch a rabbit like that.
I reckon poisoning the rabbits tried and trusted carrot patch is way more like it.
Grandma got her Cutco out, she ain’t playing around.
This is an android only issue FWIW
The comment below me saying iPhones do this is referencing 10 year old information.
iPhone underclocks older phonea against the will of the users too last I heard
iPhones have a setting where as the battery ages they can throttle the cpu, you can disable this setting.
It did it briefly against users will on batteries that were at a certain age / wear threshold, then Apple started offering decreased battery replacement costs and added a toggle for this feature that the user could control. It’s been there since iOS 11 back in 2018.
Ye, they did that after they were caught and fined for secretly underclocking phones lawl
Meanwhile Google added mandatory battery management back into the Pixel 10 because fuck you I guess?
So don’t buy a Pixel
Good to know they added that and really highlights when I last really interacted with one
This is literally a GOOD THING. They made it so their phones would reduce their boost clocks slightly if the battery is degraded to the point where the battery can no longer support those clocks in order to prevent unexpected power offs/faults from the processor trying to pull more energy than the battery can output. The underclock is not noticeable in day to day usage and prevents instability due to a worn out battery AND it automatically reverts to the factory clock speed if the battery is replaced and therefore the underclock is no longer needed!
Would you rather your several year old phone be slightly imperceptibly slower at times or crash randomly because that 50Mhz of boost clock was so critical to you?
I’d rather people have direct control of their phones. Glad to hear it’s an option now.
Fuck off
Last you heard was literally a decade ago then. This is a long settled matter
ONCE
They did it ONCE
Yes.
On the other hand, I have to basically hack an iPad 5 to use essentially any app on it that’s relevant and/ or not a subscription service.
Meanwhile I can put PostmarketOS on devices over a decade old on the android side.
So while they support longer, once no longer supported, essentially e-waste even though they have pretty good hardware, just cuz.
How long will it take until the idiot consumers will notice and instead buy devices that aren’t at the mercy of the manufacturer?
