Younger men threw their support behind Donald Trump in 2024 after favoring Biden in 2020

The United States is still not ready for a female president after more than a century of unsuccessful campaigns for the White House, according to former First Lady Michelle Obama.

“As we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain’t ready,” Obama said earlier this month in a live conversation with actor Tracee Ellis Ross that was published Friday.

“That’s why I’m like, don’t even look at me about running, because you all are lying,” she said. “You’re not ready for a woman. You are not. So don’t waste my time.”

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    I’d say it’s pretty hard for a woman to both have enough experience to be taken seriously as a candidate and simultaneously have no past baggage or party agenda.

    And I don’t think most male candidates are held to that standard, either.

    The misogyny is palpable. In the country as a whole.

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      country as a whole

      Species as a whole.

      More progressive cultures are getting over this tribalistic, divisive stuff – they will tend to flourish over time.

      More conservative cultures will double down on division – they will tend to wither.

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        While they certainly implode… I think there’s the old problem.

        Like say you have 5 co-operative communities that focus on building up great resources, polite trade with eachother, no focus on millitary.

        Then you throw in 2 Viking type communities, extremely warlike, that have no independent ability to gather resources… but specifically focus on pillaging.

        Obviously the vikings take out the poorly defended villages to build up resources, before going after eachother, in the long run everyone dies out because the vikings wreck everything for everyone, and leave nothing for themselves.

        I feel like that’s kind of a form of what happens with capitalism vs socialism types. we’ve got elements that really just want peace… but the warlike ones will just continue to survive, as long as there are enough peaceful societies to wreck… and unfortunately the peaceful ones are the ones to go down first, in spite of being the only ones that would survive long term without the others existance.

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            It’s the point though, not even completely undefended, still not 10% of the same level of defense as the primary points of capitalism. IE just note how much force, propoganda etc… is pushed at any country that isn’t capitalist enough. Right now fishing boats are being bombed. or even non military force, like the trade embargo’s on cuba etc…

            and heaven knows how many government sponsered coups etc… Point is a lot of resources go into doing everything possible to make things that aren’t capitalist enough have a very steep uphill climb.

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              Bet it all on black and maybe you can win some sort of prize, but you will still be spending the houses money until we all start to agree that liquid cash is not a stabilizing mechanism for mediating our intermittent desire to hold various kinds of power over one another in different situations typically encountered throughout our lives, and that more complex and mindful methods/systems of resource allocation + public investment strategies can be developed as well as successfully popularized in a way that can be intrinsically understood and widely accepted by most new or developing (younger) people who will be steering the general trajectory of our worldwide “society”.

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              I’m pretty sure socialist and communist countries also do perverted things like blatant propaganda, needless use of force, etc.

              Cuba is a great example. Cuba wasn’t embargoed ‘because Communism!’ (though that was, stupidly IMO, part of the USA political messaging)

              Castro did summary political executions & imprisonment , killed the free press , enacted torture

              What exactly did you want? Continue doing business like “NBD, you do you?”

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                I’m not doubting the problems of any government. however to make the case that it’s not grounded on the fear of communism… It’s not like that’s exactly uncommon in countries we are continuing to do business like NBD, Isreal, Russia, Saudi Arabia to name a few off the top of my head.

                Again not disagreeing with the general concept that communist countries aren’t exempt from committing atrocities. Difference is a capitalist country does them “it’s a growing pain”, or “they are starting out, once they get big enough they’ll fix it, just like the US did”.

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      Not true. Clinton won the popular vote

      I want to vote for a woman, but not a Zionist with plans for lots of tax rebates

      I didn’t vote for Biden, I didn’t vote for Clinton, I didn’t vote for Harris, and I didn’t vote for Obama (but I did caucus for him because public option)

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      It’s hilarious. Everyone in this thread literally ignoring the lived experience of women, trying to convince everyone their country isn’t misogynistic.