• 鳳凰院 凶真 (Hououin Kyouma)@sh.itjust.works
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      I was born in China. Immediatly got a massive fine for the crime of being the 2nd child. 💀

      I was lucky they didn’t just abort me. (government people didn’t manage to stop my birth in time…)

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          It used to be, at the time I was born.

          My mom was in Guangzhou when she had me. I don’t know exactly what happened, I don’t exact understand everything my mom told me, but apprantly either (1) they didn’t manage to find her, or (2) there was some jurisdiction issue that can only be enforced in Taishan (台山), where she was from, because she told me that she was told to go back and she refused, or maybe (3) they government found out about the pregnancy too late.

          I’m still unsure. My mom doesn’t like talking about it when I push further on the topic. I think it was her village responsible to enforce it, and since she was in Guangzhou (its a city), I think they just didn’t bother to enforce the abortion. Honestly I’m still confused as hell how I survived it.

          My mom told me that after I was born, my existence was pretty much safe, since I assume it’s hard to order people to terminate a crying baby vs a fetus. So anyways… I lived.

          My mom told me she got sterilized afterwards.

          The fines were that, if my parents didn’t pay the fines, I don’t get legal papers. Basically like an illegal immigrant in my own country. So kids basically got punished for just… existing… they didn’t even choose to exist.

          But my parents paid the fine, luckily. It was hard to save up for the money to pay.

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            Thanks for sharing your story. I’ve heard of one child policy but never from a 2nd child’s perspective.

            Your story is a disturbing parallel to modern immigrant stories in the US, as well as others, im sure.

            Healthcare is just one step above having a safe place to be in terms of human need, but places/governments that cant meet childrens basic needs in modern society are worth shaming.

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          It used to be when the population was spiraling out of control faster than infrastructure and economy could keep up. A new middle-class of sorts rose up and people stopped having kids like everywhere else in the world. So now they have raised the limit to three and are throwing in a bundle of incentives and benefits but even that’s not increasing birth rates.

          A lot of countries are facing aging populations and a smaller young workforce and it’s going to wreck economic production for literally everyone. There’s a reason for the huge push for robotics in elderly care across much of Asia. But the US and EU will be feeling the crunch soon enough also.

          This is a problem that’s being co-opted by right-wing nazitards like Elon Musk who are making it about race, but it’s really a global issue without a lot of clear causes or solutions.

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              There are people who move to China to become “professional white guys” where you hang out with socialites and drink and make them look good by being their “white associate” which is a big deal in some social circles. Literally that’s all you do.

              The catch: you need to be really familiar with China, fluent in the language, and fluent in the culture and have some connects. You should probably also be somewhat attractive or at least know style and be fit.

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    Just grit your teeth and bear it, baby. If you were an adult, you’d wish you’d just gotten spanked instead of having your life ruined.

    Oh shit, you don’t have any teeth. Sorry, baby.

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    5 hours ago

    At least in the US, the mother’s health insurance policy (assuming she has one) will automatically extend to cover children born while the mother is under coverage.

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        There are a lot of “state options” for the poor, but these are often terrible and only cover the most basic services. You may not even qualify for this in some states depending on requirements. Like, a lot of places now won’t provide any assistance without an address, monthly interviews or check-ins AND proof of income.

        I have been to the bottom at least once when I lost a lot of family members in a short time, lost my business and had a massive mountain of health expenses and debts. I basically lost everything due to circumstances and it was damn nearly impossible to climb out again. The US makes it very, very expensive to be poor. The hoops you have to jump through to get even the most basic help make it almost prohibitive.

        If I could suggest anything to anyone out there who has even basic needs met… go donate to a local food-bank/public pantry. It doesn’t have to be much, especially with the holidays. Cash will go a long way, but anything will help from vegetables from your garden to a few pairs of new, cheap socks. Those places saved me and I am paying it back.

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        Yeah it gets a little bit… psychotically dystopian at that point. Most likely the child will be assigned a caseworker who will then enroll them in medicaid (or CHIP or similar state programs, assuming we still have any of those I haven’t checked today…), and regardless they will receive necessary care until they’re discharged. But hey, it’s the US, none of this shit is actually guaranteed!

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        The baby, keenly aware of their lack of insurance and the implications of growing up poor in America, asks the nurse for a 4th trimester abortion.

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          Their in luck. The republican governor heard their story and just rolled back child labor laws allowing them to buy though their employer. Truly a touching story.

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          Alas, this “innocent” babe is not so innocent after all. Through a stunning lack of personal responsibility, they never invested in $DOGE during early availability. A lack of capital will doom this freeloader to a life in the mines