Most devices & gadgets are rechargeable nowadays. The only thing I have that still requires batteries is a headlamp but even those are available in rechargeable varieties. House smoke detectors need a battery too.

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    5 hours ago

    I would really hope we will start replacing them with 18650s and the like soon. Rechargeable NiMh batteries just suck in comparison to Li-Ion batteries

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      2 hours ago

      And 18350s and 13400 (very common in “disposable” vapes), and a bunch of other sizes.

      The issue with 18650 is honestly that it’s too big for most applications, especially when you look at what currently uses disposable batteries - remotes etc. - and their sizes.

      Also, for li-ion, a cylinder isn’t an optimal shape, for a number of reasons, first being physics - the rolled up layers result in gaps that reduces the per volume capacity. The form factor also requires a very strong can, is prone to shorts, and doesn’t allow for easy addition of protective electronics.

      For household purposes I think the best approach would’ve been utilising Nokia’s standardised battery formats (BL-5 family is still ubiquitous even though Nokia hasn’t made a phone that uses it in nearly 15 years), scaling them as necessary, while keeping a standardised pinout - with Li-Ion you kinda need more data than just the two poles can provide on a cylinder battery (temperature, internal resistance, etc.).

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      3 hours ago

      For people confused about the naming of Li-ion batteries: 18650 batteries are have 18mm diameter are 65mm long and cylinder shaped. 21700 have a 21mm diameter are 70mm long and cylinder shaped.

      When I learned this they went from confusing to really intuitive.

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      4 hours ago

      I’ve only recently stumbled on 18650’s potential (lol) by using the 4Ah Kobalt 24v batteries for some experiments with solar, 12v loads, and inverters. Holee hell nuts. Theoretically around 44amp continuous draw in 4Ah arrangement (though I’m aiming to be well under 30 in most circumstances).

      Also need to mod kids power wheels with these.

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          I was looking into them! Basically I’m just trying to utilize what I already have with my kobalt batteries for odd-end projects and camping, etc. The price-to-performance for the XTR line that has the 21700s just isn’t justifiable for my use-cases.