• ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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    17 hours ago

    Cars can never be too safe. What I want is a car with no computers or telemetry whatsoever. I want a car that is private with how I use it. Like what they were pre 2000s. Just a hunk of metal to go from point A to point B.

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        15 hours ago

        Besides kit cars or deliberately older designed cars like a Morgan Stanley, what modern cars have no driver tracking? The only one I’m aware of is the Slate EV.

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          I have a 2012 Nissan Leaf in Australia. It uses the 2G network for all telemetry. Australia just turned off the 3G network.

          I think its pretty safe to say the telemetry does not work anymore.

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      Those cars were absolutely more dangerous than the ones on the road now.

      True self-driving cars would be the epitome of safety, because humans are the most common reason for failure in most systems.

      Edit: people seem to think I’m endorsing the use of a telescreen… I mean infotainment system, in cars. That’s not what’s happening. Safety technology in cars and spyware in cars are two separate discussions. It’s a fact that vehicles today are safer than they were 20 years ago due in part to advancements in safety technology.

      And a fully autonomous vehicle would need all of the sensors and processing to be local, so there’s really no need for the Internet to be involved at all.

      I’d 100% trust a purpose built system that can do millions of sensor reading and calculations a second with a full 360° view more than I would a human who can get tired, intoxicated, distracted, or bored. The technology just isn’t there yet.

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        16 hours ago

        Do those safety features need extensive geolocation storing data and constantly listening to me and monitoring everything I do and keeping it on record?

        No? Then remove the monitoring part. I also don’t care one bit for the infotainment crap.

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          15 hours ago

          I never said anything about extensive geolocation, storing data, or constantly listening. What are you on about? Most safety sensors aren’t connected to the infotainment system.

          Putting advanced safety technology in a car and putting spyware in a car are two different conversations.