Sure. You realize how bad trump is, way worse than even Hillary. But it’s Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It’s the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.
It’s so funny how far people go to try to absolve themselves of responsibility.
Americans in very specific swing states in manipulated elections voted for Trump. Hilary actually won that election by several million votes. The USA is not a democracy and blaming voters is really a pathetic and wrong understanding of politics.
Ah yes, when it’s Russia then every Russian should suffer for not overthrowing Putin. But when it’s the US, Hillary actually won and “it wasn’t me” anyway, and blaming voters is pathetic.
But it’s Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It’s the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.
Blaming voters for not voting the right way is in fact pathetic, because their elections are fake. They couldn’t have voted differently because their votes don’t matter. I blame Americans but not for the reasons they were suggesting. I absolutely think that people in the US shouldn’t bother to vote and should instead destroy their fake democracy and settler colony. The USA is worse than Russia in every way. It is in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed Putin, it is amazing how they think it is the other way around
She was such a bad candidate that she personally couldn’t win no matter how far to the right she went. She might have stood a better chance if she treated the left flank of the party like she actually needed their votes.
Why should she have to play games ‘motivating’ people who could see she was significantly better than trump? People didn’t bother to vote against trump - so they got trump. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Why should she have to play games ‘motivating’ people who could see she was significantly better than trump?
Because that’s called politics. When you actually care more about winning than about making sure progressives lose, you try to get people to vote for you instead of regarding them with open contempt.
It seems like you are projecting this ‘open contempt’. In an ideal democracy, a politician should state their platform and people should select the best one and vote.
She was clearly a better candidate with better policy than trump - and if people saw that they should have voted for her. Saying ‘she didn’t pander to me enough’, or ‘wasn’t perfectly aligned with my ideals’ is stupid in the face of trump as the other option.
Yes, she could have said a bunch of pings - she could have lied and attempted to get votes through a populist approach, and maybe that’s what the democrats need to do, as sad as it is. But that’s only because too many Americans are stupid and won’t vote for the obviously better candidate for … reasons.
How would that have made her win? Her policy, and the history of the Democratic Party in contrast to the republicans is that she would be better for the people. Better is better. It doesn’t matter how much really. If people wanted better, they would already vote for her.
Her messaging was “America is already great”, her policies were means-tested bullshit that anyone who’s gone their entire life not getting help understood wouldn’t apply to them. Hillary was the status quo candidate.
The elections are fake so, no. The people in the US should force the issue of the abolishment of the electoral college and overturning the citizens united ruling by any means necessary
Sure. You realize how bad trump is, way worse than even Hillary. But it’s Americans that voted for trump over Hillary. It’s the stupidity of Americans that you should be blaming.
It’s so funny how far people go to try to absolve themselves of responsibility.
Americans in very specific swing states in manipulated elections voted for Trump. Hilary actually won that election by several million votes. The USA is not a democracy and blaming voters is really a pathetic and wrong understanding of politics.
Ah yes, when it’s Russia then every Russian should suffer for not overthrowing Putin. But when it’s the US, Hillary actually won and “it wasn’t me” anyway, and blaming voters is pathetic.
Blaming voters for not voting the right way is in fact pathetic, because their elections are fake. They couldn’t have voted differently because their votes don’t matter. I blame Americans but not for the reasons they were suggesting. I absolutely think that people in the US shouldn’t bother to vote and should instead destroy their fake democracy and settler colony. The USA is worse than Russia in every way. It is in fact the US who over threw the Russian government and installed Putin, it is amazing how they think it is the other way around
So she should have shifter further right to try to capture the votes in those specific swing states?
Even if she moved right of Trump she would have lost, median voter theory is horseshit.
So she couldn’t have won no matter what. You’re saying she wasn’t a bad candidate, I guess.
She was such a bad candidate that she personally couldn’t win no matter how far to the right she went. She might have stood a better chance if she treated the left flank of the party like she actually needed their votes.
Why should she have to play games ‘motivating’ people who could see she was significantly better than trump? People didn’t bother to vote against trump - so they got trump. They have no one to blame but themselves.
Because that’s called politics. When you actually care more about winning than about making sure progressives lose, you try to get people to vote for you instead of regarding them with open contempt.
It seems like you are projecting this ‘open contempt’. In an ideal democracy, a politician should state their platform and people should select the best one and vote.
She was clearly a better candidate with better policy than trump - and if people saw that they should have voted for her. Saying ‘she didn’t pander to me enough’, or ‘wasn’t perfectly aligned with my ideals’ is stupid in the face of trump as the other option.
Yes, she could have said a bunch of pings - she could have lied and attempted to get votes through a populist approach, and maybe that’s what the democrats need to do, as sad as it is. But that’s only because too many Americans are stupid and won’t vote for the obviously better candidate for … reasons.
I am saying she could have won if she moved left and promised to improve the material conditions the people she was asking to vote for her.
Moving right does not earn democrats republican votes, it only decreases their own turnout.
How would that have made her win? Her policy, and the history of the Democratic Party in contrast to the republicans is that she would be better for the people. Better is better. It doesn’t matter how much really. If people wanted better, they would already vote for her.
Her messaging was “America is already great”, her policies were means-tested bullshit that anyone who’s gone their entire life not getting help understood wouldn’t apply to them. Hillary was the status quo candidate.
So you figure trump is better?
The elections are fake so, no. The people in the US should force the issue of the abolishment of the electoral college and overturning the citizens united ruling by any means necessary
I feel like you’re looking for a fight, but I don’t disagree. I blame the idiocy and myopicism of my countrymen, too.
I guess we can simply keep losing elections until they educate the entire populace.
I mean, centrists prefer that to moving to the left.