Hillary Clinton is facing a deluge of criticism after stating that young Americans’ growing support for Palestinians is influenced by “totally made-up” videos on TikTok and suggesting that American youth - including young Jews - “don’t know history and don’t understand” Israel’s war on Gaza.

Speaking on Tuesday at a summit hosted by the right-wing Israeli paper Israel Hayom in New York City, the former Democratic presidential candidate expressed her concerns that “smart, well-educated young people” in America and around the world are getting a lot of their information, including about Israel and Palestine, from social media platforms like TikTok.

The former US secretary of state described it as “serious problem for democracy”, remarking that when she attempted to have “reasonable discussions” with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".

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    gee maybe you should ask your mentor, arch fucking ghoul nixon enabler Henry Kissinger for some advice IN HELL

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    The former US secretary of state described it as “serious problem for democracy”, remarking that when she attempted to have “reasonable discussions” with young people, it was challenging because “they did not know history, they had very little context, and what they were being told on social media was not just one-sided, it was pure propaganda".

    Look, lady, at some point the prior history doesn’t matter. The history we’re experiencing right the fuck now is a single day, a single attack, by Hamas responded to by two fucking solid years of calculated extermination and nullification of the Palestinian people.

    It doesn’t fucking matter what happened thirty god damned years ago when the average age in Gaza before Oct 7th 2023 was fucking sixteen! Guess what Hillary you fucking idiot, 16 year olds haven’t been alive long enough to have had anything to fucking do with that history!

    The fucking audacity of her ass to be talking about the “history!”

    Of all people, this bitch deserved to lose to Trump. She even used her connections to promote him in the media because she was fucksure she would end up in the general election against Jeb Bush. That’s what you get for fucking over Bernie Sanders!

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      Historical context show that palestinians was victim of settler colonialism and ethrnic cleansing

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      Even then it doesn’t. Palestinians have been there for thousands of years. They didn’t just appear overnight. They’re the remnants of Canaanites and Jews who stayed after they were exiled. Many of them adopted Islam and Arab culture during the conquests. Arabs didn’t come in and wipe out the indigenous population and replace them. Same with Egyptian, Libyan, and Turkish people. That’s why they’re not all the same and have drastically different cultures and languages, and not just standard Arabic.

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    Go fight Donnie over Bubba’s dick and shut the fuck up. Genocide is bad, mmmkay? Can’t believe its hard to grasp.

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    I spent two years in college studying the history of the Middle East and specifically the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I have never been on TikTok. Then where the fuck did my pro-Palestine views come from? I know the history very well and Israel has been unreasonable assholes from the beginning. Yes, Hamas and Palestine need to stop leading with violence, but when you’re fighting for your country’s literal existence it’s a bit of a moral grey area. The whole situation is a shit show and it infuriates me that Israel has so much support from the US. Without the 800lb gorilla backing them I feel like they’d have been forced to negotiate a reasonable solution long ago. Instead, here we are with a wildly disproportionate response that is 2 years long and the US has effectively cheered them on.

    Hilary and her entire generation of politicians can get fucked.

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    Hillary… You’re barely a has-been at best, and Bill cuck at worst. Kindly fuck off into obscurity and even more irrelevance, nobody wants to hear your dog shit, conservative opinion.

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    That’s weird because I’ve never been on that app, am older, and probably hold some similar views. So where are my views coming from? You just have to have a heart and then you can see things correctly. It’s only fair to hold standards against everyone. Israel doesn’t get a pass. Not on morality.

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    I think the Google Maps view of the whole fucking Middle East is why people support Palestine

    “There didn’t used to be a hole there…something ain’t right”

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    Of course it’s other people who are misinformed, don’t understand the context and have a one-sided view of the war. It can’t possibly be her.

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    She might be right about young people not having much context as a general rule - I’ve seen this kind of Dunning-Kruger thing before when someone in their teens/twenties first comes across something and they start to have some political awakening. Think of the way that some people fall into the most maximalist of positions on the spectrum and how cringe it often seems, often to later versions of that very person, LOL.

    Anyway, I think the cracks on Israel being some united front on our “special relationship” with them and as far as the average U.S. citizen supporting it w/o question have been starting long before TikTok was even a thing.

    And most of the people I’ve talked to over the years, or things I’ve seen others write/say online has had plenty of context. Hell, Chomsky has been out there talking about this for decades. It’s just that the gatekeeping corporate media chokehold on people being able to talk to one another about this, en masse has been loosened, starting in the late 90s.

    Used to be someone could yell “anti-semite” at anyone questioning us doing Israel’s every whim and that was the end of the conversation. That tactic’s effectiveness started to erode with the rise of the 'net. Are some of the people that obsess about Israel/Gaza and Jews/Palestinians anti-semitic? Of fucking course they are. Is everyone? Hell no.

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    What a useless ankle. I mean that in the Arkansas view of that word. Another hateful useless person who wont accept that their version of history is a lie. The document that gave isreal statehood also gave the same for Palestine and they have never honored it. That is the history of it you useless piece of shit. Another horrible person who has no idea how horrible they are.