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    10 hours ago

    But by all means, please, let’s keep forcing their hand on this issue. This one issue works… the longer they hold out, the longer we can continue to occupy their prefrontal cortex, the less bandwidth they have for other heinous shit.

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      9 hours ago

      I disagree. They’ve done loads of heinous shit while everyone is focused on the files.

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          7 hours ago

          Seriously?

          The goal of flooding the zone is to do heinous shit while you’re distracted.

          In this case, distracted by something which is ultimately not actionable.

          You’ve been carrying on about this for the last 6 months and have forced them to release a photo of Clinton in the hot tub. Well done. Really holding their feet to the fire here.

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            I think this still fails to see the bigger picture. They released something they hadn’t before, which shows that progress was made. Had Trump held all the power, that wouldn’t have happened. Now, what are your ideas and how much progress have they made so far?

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              That’s my point though, what has this recent release achieved? You can’t claim its progress if no progress has been made. If anything its counter productive because predictably, the released files and photos have exposed key figures from the left.

              My idea is to not be as stupid as Americans seem to be. Working out pretty well so far.

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                Like I said, we now have more than we did before. You can look at that from multiple angles: (1) we have more recency to his most heinous activities. This stuff gets to some of his supporters. (2) we have more legal leverage over him now, for what it’s worth now and in the coming years. (3) we have more documents from the Epstein case now. (4) we have ever so slightly forced his hand and thus demonstrated it is possible to do so, even if it wasn’t exactly the outcome we immediately demanded.

                Your argument to me feels like it tries to invalidate the only demonstrable progress that has actually occurred, for its size alone. It’s to say no progress is better than little progress, which I whole heartedly disagree with. This is slight positional progress, and I’d ask again: how much progress have your ideas made in resolving the kind of situation America faces? Because “to not be as stupid as Americans seem to be” isn’t actually doing anything except admitting you don’t face the problem yourself and likely have no solutions to offer.