For those who aren’t familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn’t be believed, or being influenced to believe something that’s not necessarily in your best interests.

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    You couldn’t tell he was a maniac grifter? The fact that his money comes from family mines in South Africa and he didn’t renounce it but built upon it didn’t let you know he was a villain? 😕

    PS: Weird post to downdoot. Explain yourselves, you cowards, lol.

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      PS: Weird post to downdoot. Explain yourselves, you cowards, lol.

      You’re not wrong, you’re just being a dick about it in a thread that is literally about the time one drank the Kool Aid.

      Criticising people that have reflected their previous choices/views and are acting different now is unnecessary.

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        Where’s the criticism? Stop having an emotional reaction to my actual bewilderment (“you couldn’t tell…”) and just explain it to me (or don’t!). 🙃

        Had I said something like “lol you fucking incompetent moron, you smoothbrain fucks”, I’d get it, certainly. But I didn’t.

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          You asked people to explain. People explained that you’re coming across as a dick, in a thread explicitly about regrettable, gullible moments. I don’t know what you’re having a problem with here but it seems like you’re the one having an emotional reaction, calling people cowards and refusing to hear people’s explanations.

          I think the reason your initial comment comes across hostile is because of the way it’s written (chaining questions), and the way you’re asking things that have an obvious answer.

          However, you didn’t write anything explicitly hostile. It’s a question that could come across either way, and if you genuinely had no mocking or hostile intent I would have suggested rereading and rewording your comment to make that clearer, as it’s tough to interpret that kind of thing through text. I’ve totally left comments that read hostile when I didn’t intend it to, it just happens sometimes! 🤷‍♂️

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            Now this is a proper reply. Fair enough. I wasn’t being hostile, more like 🤔😔, certainly not too positive. It’s annoying that people can be this blind, it’s a big reason why the world is so shit and why the West cranks and exports villains who are loved locally… it’s triggering, for lack of a better word.

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              Just when you exhibited a moment of possible self-reflection, you just threw it all away and reinforced every negative connotation your prior statements have held.

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      I had no idea he came from SA with wealth from mining until after I figured out he was full of shit and and absolute dickhead, only after that did I realize where it all started.

      So don’t blame people for not knowing what you knew at the time.

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        First of all, where’s the blame? Don’t get too emotional on me. Secondly, that’s like the easiest and quickest Google research you could’ve done, lol. Finally, does anyone who isn’t in the spectrum even have to Google anything related to him? The insanity and depravity was palpable, just like with Milei and Trump and the others. But if you are, then the little Google search would be absolutely necessary before you start praising him as if he’s some messiah and not just another selfish capitalist amoral prick. Haven’t y’all had enough experience with these folks to recognise it?!

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          This is where you put the blame in your comment:

          The fact that his money comes from family mines in South Africa and he didn’t renounce it but built upon it didn’t let you know he was a villain?

          This isn’t even general knowledge these days, and has only started spreading in the last few years, you acted as if everyone knew it from day one.

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          Hang on, before I reply I have to research whether any people in this thread bought their computer with money earned through slavery.

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      He was a big figure before the Internet became what it is today. We only saw him through headlines, that he probably paid to have embellished in a positive light.

      Before he started going on twitter and we all saw what a prick he was, he was Mr. Most-Likely-To-Be-Iron-Man-IRL. It’s a shame really.