For those who aren’t familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn’t be believed, or being influenced to believe something that’s not necessarily in your best interests.

  • stoy@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Never liked the guy in the first place, but what really sealed the deal was when I heard him talk about the stupid fucking Hyperloop, and then later when he built the even more stupid Loop system in Las Vegas.

    As a Swede who knows trains and remembers reading about Swissmetro, the Hyperloop system was not just a stupid idea, it was an old discredited stupid idea from the very start.

    As for the Loop system, the less said about it, the more time is left to laugh at it.

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      10 hours ago

      Musk was already know for being a toxic asshole long before the pedo incident.

      His was already establishing himself as anti-labor, a terrible leader and an asshole who screamed at employees and fired employees in front of other employees.

      He only got into Tesla and spacex because he was able to establish himself as unremovable because every other company he had attempt to lead, fired his ass for being all of these things.

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        12 hours ago

        Absolutely, but little of that information was common knowledge at the time.

        • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 hours ago

          I’m not sure common knowledge is a appropriate here, most of what you and I listed still isn’t common knowledge.

          I recall all of this being covered and discussed. The main difference was the type of excuses being made becuase believe wanted to believe he was saving the world.

          There are definitely people who still believe. But there are now fewer people proclaiming it and the excuses are gone.

          Now the argument is if he’s a Nazi or not. Few take his goals seriously, we’re in some weird state where people are gaslighting themselves for various reasons. A big one is to protect the massive amount of money invested in his worthless companies.