• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    5 hours ago

    That’s crazy. You think monkeys aren’t curious about the world around them?

    They just don’t look to humans for answers, they look to humans for treats

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      5 hours ago

      Well, curiosity comes in different stripes. Investigating your environment is one thing. Asking second-order questions is another.

      “May I have food?” vs “Why am I here?” and “What is outside these walls?”

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        2 hours ago

        They already understand the second order questions though. Why would they ask the humans?

        They know what’s outside their enclosures, they know they’re there because the humans want them there, they know strange humans like to see and interact with them through the glass. They just don’t care, so long as they have their tribe around with things to do and they get tasty food

        Animals understand existence better than humans do. They understand life and death better than we to. Our higher intelligence makes second order questions complicated because we put ourselves through mental gymnastics

        We should be asking apes about the meaning of life, not the other way around

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          49 minutes ago

          Second-order questions aren’t just the prosaic things any intelligent creature would ask, such as “why am I here?” or “what do you want from me?”

          but also the more esoteric, “what sort of creature are you?” And “what sort of creature am I?”

          Animals (and, indeed, most humans) don’t ask (or don’t really understand) second-order questions very well because that requires abstraction, which is the sort of reasoning that requires enormous amounts of education and curiosity.

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        2 hours ago

        “Why are we here?”

        “One of life’s great mysteries isn’t it? Why are we here? I mean, are we the product of some cosmic coincidence? Or is there really a God, watching everything? You know, with a plan for us and stuff? I don’t know man, but it keeps me up at night.”

        “What? I mean why are we here, in this box canyon in the middle of nowhere?”

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          51 minutes ago

          if you wake up in a compound, catered to your every need by weird alien captors, “why am I here?” is a pretty obvious question.

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      5 hours ago

      I have no idea if they’re curious about the world around them. But that’s also not the question at hand.