• idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Ah, the Space Race. Something that was famously only participated in by capitalist countries.

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      2 days ago

      The USSR never put a man on the moon. And what your implying here is that the USSR was communism? If so the genocides and mass starvation it caused should be enough evidence against communism.

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        2 days ago

        I’m asserting that capitalism didn’t do that on its own. The USSR is not a good example of communism, no, but it’s certainly not capitalist, and if they hadn’t provided competition at every step of the space race, beating the US out most of the time, the US wouldn’t have gotten to the moon.

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        2 days ago

        Oh, here we go with the “little black book of communism” bullshit.

        Gods, you guys are so predictable.

        • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          60million dead people is bullshit hey? That’s 10x what Hitler did in the holocaust. Being predictable doesn’t change the facts that your supporting and pushing an ideology responsible for 60million dead people. That’s literally 10times as bad as supporting Nazism if we are going by human lives taken.

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            23 hours ago

            We currently produce enough food to feed everyone and the international system is capitalist. Does every death from starvation or malnutrition count as a tick against capitalism for you? What about deaths from diabetes in the US? If not, you should look more into how the numbers you’re citing were generated and see if you still want to spread them. If so, you might find that capitalism has killed more than “communism.”

            Also, just as a nitpick: 6 million Jews died in the holocaust. 13 million people died altogether (not including war casualties).

            I know you feel like we’re on opposite sides here, but I really do just want you to research this a little more, no need to come back afterwards if you don’t want to.

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              22 hours ago

              I’m counting western capitalism Europe, USA, western aligned Asia pacific nations etc as I think that’s a fair comparison to make in the context of communism given I only considered the USSR and not other “communist nations”.

              I’m aware of the nitpick I’m purposely presenting technically true facts in a manner most advantageous to my argument (same as any journalist does). I’ve done plenty of research I even went and read the communist manifesto so I could understand its true intentions (they got the societal diagnosis correct just the treatment is complete bullshit imo).

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                17 hours ago

                I think we have different definitions of “technically true,” but that’s probably true for a lot of terms. Have a good new year’s, if you celebrate.

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                  2 hours ago

                  That’s the problem with discussion like this I talk about x you hear y you respond with z and I hear w. Happy news to you to.