Wayland is the successor to the X server (X11, Xorg) to implement the graphics stack on Linux. The Wayland project was actually started in 2008, a year before I created the i3 tiling window manager for X11 in 2009 — but for the last 18 years (!), Wayland was never usable on my computers. I don’t want to be stuck on deprecated software, so I try to start using Wayland each year, and this articles outlines what keeps me from migrating to Wayland in 2026.
Apparently you didn’t read his own referenced write-up on that: https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2017-12-11-dell-up3218k/
Exactly as I described.
Not sure what you mean but:
As he said, it worked in X11 but not in Wayland.
Then you didn’t read it. He linked it right at the top of the post.
Oh i read both articles and I still have no clue why it would invalidate my point. Please enlighten my stupid little mind with some proper context and not only a link to a long document.
Your comment to me is that he was NOT buying hardware incompatible with anything but Wayland, and you were responding to my point that he most definitely was…because we quite literally wrote about it himself in 2017 when he got said hardware.
Not sure where your entitled sarcasm comes from when you’re just not reading anything in the first place. His assertions, not even mine.
he got hardware that worked with the default setup for the majority of linux DEs at the time… he literally followed your suggestion and has been waiting for support for it in wayland for a decade.
this has to be the dumbest argument I’ve seen in a few months on here. you’re literally telling someone to sell their car because you want them to switch to a different kind of engine that currently isn’t compatible with their car, even though they haven’t wanted to switch to a new engine for a decade.
Wow, you must be really bad at everything then.
What I’m saying is you don’t by a fucking car before they build the roads to the area you want to drive to. Using your analogy which even you can’t make work 🤣
He didn’t. He wanted to use x11. You are completely incapable of reading. My analogy makes more sense because it’s describing what he did.
If you’re too stupid to click a fucking link at the top of the article, then read my very simple comment detailing his history with this from 2017—not 2025—then it is you can’t read, and are just flailing and pathetic here. Can’t help you, kid.
Well and his current articel from 8 years later says that it worked with X11 for years, so what? Maybe your arguments are a bit out of date? Information can be obsolete after nearly a decade.
It’s literally part of the same article. Right there. Click above. Second paragraph. Link right there. Talking about buying the hardware I years ago. The framing of the entire article. The point of the thing. The point of my comment. Don’t know how much more clear it could possibly be.
Are you trying to just ignore it? Revisionist history of a blog entry? Lololz. Sad, kid.
I am not more ignoring it then you are ignoring the fact that the hardware article is 8 years old and that the current article makes part of the old one obsolete.
It’s literally the framing of the article. It’s in the setup of the article. You want to pick and choose the content of the writing to have your point come true, go ahead and be that pathetic. I won’t even try and stop you. 🤣