That chart shows variation within a sex. That’s all how sex is determined, but not how it’s defined
EDIT: As an example, it mentions “male characteristics” in the context of 5αR2D. If sex were defined by phenotypes, that would be a circular definition. You can’t define “male characteristics” in a coherent way across species without referring back to gametes.
Why do you care so much? Sounds like you have skin in the game - that’s why others care so much. Sorry that you can’t accept that you are trans yourself. I hope you find peace with it someday.
Lol nice try… because I’ve got skin in the game, obviously!
You’re not fooling anyone any more. It’s like being bothered about someone else deciding to change their name to “Brian” and then dedicating your life to refusing to call them “Brian” and trying to make sure nobody else will call them “Brian” either by posting online every day about it.
Doesn’t that seem a little neurotic and obsessive to you?
Like why do you care if someone else wants to be called “Brian” when you too could call yourself “Brian” - or whatever you like instead!?
I’m really sorry you haven’t managed to accept yourself for whoever you are, I’m sure life has been pretty shit for you and I’m sorry. I do understand!
I hope you will find acceptance of yourself because going around in the world being angry that other people are calling themselves “Brian” makes no sense and is doing you no good. It never did!
Live and let live! You are trans and you haven’t come to terms with it. I can spot you a mile off, anybody can! Sorry to break it to you… life is going to be OK, in fact it is going to get better for you. You won’t need to be afraid of yourself or everyone else any more… only of people behaving like yourself here today.
That’s why I care about it.
The saddest thing for you is that you really can just be yourself in 2026 - it’s totally fine to be trans or gender nonconforming… be yourself! So all this stress, anger and bad feeling in your life is all for nothing.
Leave it all behind, feel the weight drop off your whole being! You are trans! Stop hating yourself and have a good life from the moment you just accept who you are! Life is too short to spend your time alive being miserable, making other people’s lives worse.
We see who you are very easily because you give yourself away instantly by attacking your own shadow in front of us, when you could just be enjoying life and being friendly.
You aren’t fooling anyone else and you certainly haven’t managed to fool yourself.
You might as well walk in holding a neon sign saying “I’m trans and haven’t come to terms with it yet because I’m too scared to face it.”
I care if you read it, because in the meantime you are attacking that which you are unable to accept within yourself when you see other people who are totally fine about it within themselves.
I care because you attack a minority that you’re too scared to belong to. Even though you do belong to it already.
Ultimately I don’t personally mind if you remain alienated from yourself forever.
I know you can’t hide that you are trans, and all the time are living a life of extreme paranoia and sadness. You carry on.
You’re not camouflaged at all, so.I’m just letting you know we all see you, plain as day.
No, I think that unlike you, science is descriptive, explanatory and neutral and that instead of understanding the consensus you pick out one or two outliers who have let their politics interfere with their work.
You’re just the same as people who believe there’s a link between MMR and autism because you found Pons and Fleischman and some nurse you meet swears it’s a cover up by big pharma.
It’s funny that you said elsewhere that this has nothing to do with RFK, yet here you are, behaving exactly like him, Dunning-Kruger lived out in absolute full force.
Then I don’t understand your argument. I thought you were saying that since any definition needs to be grounded in the gamete type which is binary, then any definition would necessarily also be binary.
The closest analogy I can think of where this is applicable is that qubits could be compared to an embryo that could be said to not yet have a sex, with a measurement of a qubit being roughly the same as an embryo developing to the point of being sexed. Which sure, it’s an interesting analogy, but doesn’t dispute the sex binary.
It’s not an analogy. It’s a counterexample. One that is irrelevant because I appear to have misunderstood your argument, but you’re not clarifying, so I have nothing new to add here.
I’m legitimately trying to understand where you’re coming from here. When you say “definition based on something binary is not necessarily binary” that’s all fine and well but doesn’t imply anything about the binary.
If X is a binary, and Y is something that results in X after a process, pointing out that Y isn’t binary has no bearing on the fact that X is binary.
That chart shows variation within a sex. That’s all how sex is determined, but not how it’s defined
EDIT: As an example, it mentions “male characteristics” in the context of 5αR2D. If sex were defined by phenotypes, that would be a circular definition. You can’t define “male characteristics” in a coherent way across species without referring back to gametes.
Why do you care so much? Sounds like you have skin in the game - that’s why others care so much. Sorry that you can’t accept that you are trans yourself. I hope you find peace with it someday.
Well, why do you care so much?
Lol nice try… because I’ve got skin in the game, obviously!
You’re not fooling anyone any more. It’s like being bothered about someone else deciding to change their name to “Brian” and then dedicating your life to refusing to call them “Brian” and trying to make sure nobody else will call them “Brian” either by posting online every day about it.
Doesn’t that seem a little neurotic and obsessive to you?
Like why do you care if someone else wants to be called “Brian” when you too could call yourself “Brian” - or whatever you like instead!?
I’m really sorry you haven’t managed to accept yourself for whoever you are, I’m sure life has been pretty shit for you and I’m sorry. I do understand!
I hope you will find acceptance of yourself because going around in the world being angry that other people are calling themselves “Brian” makes no sense and is doing you no good. It never did!
Live and let live! You are trans and you haven’t come to terms with it. I can spot you a mile off, anybody can! Sorry to break it to you… life is going to be OK, in fact it is going to get better for you. You won’t need to be afraid of yourself or everyone else any more… only of people behaving like yourself here today.
That’s why I care about it.
The saddest thing for you is that you really can just be yourself in 2026 - it’s totally fine to be trans or gender nonconforming… be yourself! So all this stress, anger and bad feeling in your life is all for nothing.
Leave it all behind, feel the weight drop off your whole being! You are trans! Stop hating yourself and have a good life from the moment you just accept who you are! Life is too short to spend your time alive being miserable, making other people’s lives worse.
We see who you are very easily because you give yourself away instantly by attacking your own shadow in front of us, when you could just be enjoying life and being friendly.
You aren’t fooling anyone else and you certainly haven’t managed to fool yourself.
May you find your true self and live in peace.
Edit: typos
That’s a lot of text. Why do you care so much?
Take your time reading it.
Why do you care if I do?
You might as well walk in holding a neon sign saying “I’m trans and haven’t come to terms with it yet because I’m too scared to face it.”
I care if you read it, because in the meantime you are attacking that which you are unable to accept within yourself when you see other people who are totally fine about it within themselves.
I care because you attack a minority that you’re too scared to belong to. Even though you do belong to it already.
Ultimately I don’t personally mind if you remain alienated from yourself forever.
I know you can’t hide that you are trans, and all the time are living a life of extreme paranoia and sadness. You carry on.
You’re not camouflaged at all, so.I’m just letting you know we all see you, plain as day.
Why do you care so much?
A bit that can be 0 or 1 is binary. A quantum bit is not binary, even though it’s a linear combination of 0 and 1.
Sure, but that’s not relevant here
Neither is your anti trans ranting.
If you think science is anti trans, that’s completely on you.
No, I think that unlike you, science is descriptive, explanatory and neutral and that instead of understanding the consensus you pick out one or two outliers who have let their politics interfere with their work.
You’re just the same as people who believe there’s a link between MMR and autism because you found Pons and Fleischman and some nurse you meet swears it’s a cover up by big pharma.
Well no. You’re not even citing any sources, but if you did, you’d be relying on outliers who have let their politics interfere with their work.
Every accusation is a confession, eh?
It’s funny that you said elsewhere that this has nothing to do with RFK, yet here you are, behaving exactly like him, Dunning-Kruger lived out in absolute full force.
Every accusation is a confession, eh?
Then I don’t understand your argument. I thought you were saying that since any definition needs to be grounded in the gamete type which is binary, then any definition would necessarily also be binary.
What are you actually proposing? That an entire person exists in a superposition until they produce gametes?
I’m saying that a definition based on something binary is not necessarily binary.
The closest analogy I can think of where this is applicable is that qubits could be compared to an embryo that could be said to not yet have a sex, with a measurement of a qubit being roughly the same as an embryo developing to the point of being sexed. Which sure, it’s an interesting analogy, but doesn’t dispute the sex binary.
It’s not an analogy. It’s a counterexample. One that is irrelevant because I appear to have misunderstood your argument, but you’re not clarifying, so I have nothing new to add here.
I’m legitimately trying to understand where you’re coming from here. When you say “definition based on something binary is not necessarily binary” that’s all fine and well but doesn’t imply anything about the binary.
If X is a binary, and Y is something that results in X after a process, pointing out that Y isn’t binary has no bearing on the fact that X is binary.