That’s blame shifting. God as the creator of everything is responsible for everything. He could have created humanity in such a manner that they weren’t prone to sin. He could have created Satan in a manner that he wouldn’t fall and tempt people to sin.
That’s the King James Version, an old translation, the meaning of “evil” has changed. A better translation of it would be “calamity” or “disaster” which God does do to punish sin.
Sure, God had knowledge Satan would turn against Him, but you could also give birth to a child with knowledge that it’ll have a disability. That’s not the same as giving it a disability.
The King James Version was written in 1600s English. The meaning of words have changed a lot over that time period. You can’t just say the meaning of the Bible changes because the English language has changed. That’s just stupidity. The modern translation of that word is closer to “calamity”
The difference being that parents don’t literally create every aspect of their child with the perfect knowledge of exactly what it will do. God does. To imply God didn’t intend for Satan to do what he did means you have to throw away either all-knowing or all-powerful for your idea of God.
I’ve heard many an atheist suggest God is bad for not making us uneducated and subservient to Him and giving us free will in the first place.
It’s not free will if he knows what will happen.
Atheist here, interestingly he doesn’t!
God is bound by linear time apparently since he regretted making man as revealed to Noah before the flood.
You can’t regret things if you knew it would happen and you’re all knowing.
So he is demonstrably not all knowing and not all powerful.
But this does mean free will exists under christian logic. Which you can also just completely ignore since its not real anyways.
God can act. That doesn’t mean he’s ignorant. The book is written from the perspective of humans and we’re gullible.
Does free will exist in heaven?
Depends how you define it. You’d have free will but the temptation to sin is gone. The temptation to sin comes from Satan.
That’s blame shifting. God as the creator of everything is responsible for everything. He could have created humanity in such a manner that they weren’t prone to sin. He could have created Satan in a manner that he wouldn’t fall and tempt people to sin.
Without darkness you can never notice light
This is not true according to the Bible.
It says we are “born in sin” and unworthy of God, only by accepting baby Jesus do we become pure enough for God to tolerate us.
Also, God created Satan, with full knowledge of what he would be, so even if you were right, God would be the source of Satan (and sin).
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” ~Isaiah 45:7
That’s the King James Version, an old translation, the meaning of “evil” has changed. A better translation of it would be “calamity” or “disaster” which God does do to punish sin.
Sure, God had knowledge Satan would turn against Him, but you could also give birth to a child with knowledge that it’ll have a disability. That’s not the same as giving it a disability.
The King James version was good enough for God for millennia, so it’s good enough for me.
You could say the “disaster/calamity” of the Great Flood (for example) is different from “evil” if you’d like. That amuses me, go on
The King James version isn’t even 500 years old…
Oh no I haven’t memorized the release date of one of the billions of books
I’m so embarrassed!
CORRECTION: The King James version was good enough for God for more than four hundred years, so it’s good enough for me.
You should also give the year and month and day, but I don’t want to be pedantic (wink)
The King James Version was written in 1600s English. The meaning of words have changed a lot over that time period. You can’t just say the meaning of the Bible changes because the English language has changed. That’s just stupidity. The modern translation of that word is closer to “calamity”
The difference being that parents don’t literally create every aspect of their child with the perfect knowledge of exactly what it will do. God does. To imply God didn’t intend for Satan to do what he did means you have to throw away either all-knowing or all-powerful for your idea of God.