I’m up for it, every crime should be handled by real police and real courts. Although, I do think there needs to be a way to keep tabs on people who enter this nation, to prevent espionage.
Legit question, not trying to bait or criticize: how many cases of espionage do you think DHS and ICE are actually successfully investigating and preventing? My gut feeling as a US citizen who pays a reasonable amount of attention to the news is “not many” but I honestly haven’t considered it
DHS and ICE officers don’t do shit about it but the DHS and ICE office-workers work compiling lists of people and that work would need to continue even if the rest of the organization were shut down.
AFAIK that task is not done by any other department, currently.
We do need to also do something to shut down the Trump admin and Republican push to force Police Departments to provide a database of people who don’t have identification to the DHS, though. The reason being that this would interfere with criminal investigation and court proceedings.
Not only are the CIA and FBI not an organizational scale to handle that number of documents and lists, but I definitely wouldn’t want them to be. FBI might be okay, at least better than the CIA, but FBI is better suited to holding police accountable.
Maybe what we really need is more and smaller specialized departments.
I’m up for it, every crime should be handled by real police and real courts. Although, I do think there needs to be a way to keep tabs on people who enter this nation, to prevent espionage.
Legit question, not trying to bait or criticize: how many cases of espionage do you think DHS and ICE are actually successfully investigating and preventing? My gut feeling as a US citizen who pays a reasonable amount of attention to the news is “not many” but I honestly haven’t considered it
DHS and ICE officers don’t do shit about it but the DHS and ICE office-workers work compiling lists of people and that work would need to continue even if the rest of the organization were shut down.
AFAIK that task is not done by any other department, currently.
We do need to also do something to shut down the Trump admin and Republican push to force Police Departments to provide a database of people who don’t have identification to the DHS, though. The reason being that this would interfere with criminal investigation and court proceedings.
That’s what the CIA and FBI are for
Not only are the CIA and FBI not an organizational scale to handle that number of documents and lists, but I definitely wouldn’t want them to be. FBI might be okay, at least better than the CIA, but FBI is better suited to holding police accountable.
Maybe what we really need is more and smaller specialized departments.
Yeah “no borders” people aren’t really part of the discourse, they exist but they are not to be taken seriously.