I’ve been one of the people saying “we don’t need more users. we need quality over quantity” and i was wrong.

the way it’s going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

edit: source for the graph

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    14 hours ago

    C) Moderation varies wildly based on the instance, and the community. I wouldn’t say Lemmy comment sections are any worse than Reddits though.

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      reddits is more oppressive, mainly because your dealing with reddits AI moderation filter, which can apply blanket bannings for no reason at all, and thier bot detection is too overly sensitive, and the mods with thier individual sub filters, and the mods meddling too. and the favorite, report abuse, eventhough you wernt spam reporting.

      of course anything to do with trump or saying something should happen to[right wing person] usually immediately catches a temp ban, warning.

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      Most people on Reddit avoid the larger subs like the plague though - but then when they come here, they don’t know what to avoid or even to pay attention to, e.g. is !Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net a lively and fun, exciting place, or a toxic cesspit hellhole?

      And at least that one is honest about what it is, whereas lemmy.ml markets itself as a community dedicated to discussing FOSS! (Which, among other things, yes is one of the variety of things discussed there, although somehow that description seems to be missing a fair bit of information that would have REALLY helped out a ton in educating people what communities to participate in).

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        funything i havnt have that much of interaction with the .ml tankie as much as hexbear, hexbear seemed to be mroe prominent, before i blocked the triad.

        i think you got it reversed, people go to reddit to engage in the massive subreddits. ask, politics, videos, fauxmoi,etc are all heavy traffic for the site.

        i suspect alot of users who arnt banned on reddit, are waffling between reddit and lemmy, some are even going back there to engage in the subs, and reddit has more content so they probably are spending more time there.

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          Except don’t forget that when people get IP-banned from Reddit (which also blocks people using proxies as of late) for being “too toxic” (even by Reddit’s standards!), they come here.

          So there are some that have little choice.

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        Most people on Reddit avoid the larger subs like the plague though

        This doesn’t really seem to make sense to me.

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        If we defederate Hexbear and ml, that will go some of the way to easing those bad experiences for new users

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          ml is run by the devs of Lemmy so unfortunately that’s not realistic, you could be missing on a ton of information if you want to subscribe to Lemmy development or information related communities

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            8 hours ago

            The devs can make accounts on a less controversial instance if they want their news to be heard by the rest of us

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              (1) they already did that with lemmygrad.ml.

              (2) There are other ways, like watching the actual GitHub repo.

              if they want their news to be heard by the rest of us

              (3) bold of you to presume that this is what they want. Rather they seem quite content to hold that knowledge hostage.

              Truly, it’s their software and they can do as they please, even put a good fraction of the funding donated to them towards moderating that specific, highly controversial instance rather than further code development.

              If you dont like it, fork it. Stop bothering us about it

              - Nutomic responding to a feature request

              You need to realize that they made Lemmy for themselves, not first and foremost for the benefit of the entire world, thus even something that harms the Threadiverse but that benefits lemmy.ml specifically is preferable to helping everyone at the expense of it. They do not think like you do, and do not want what you want.

              See e.g. this description explaining how Lemmy.ml is about to become even more centralized as the authoritarian decider of what communities are to be allowed to be recommended to a new Lemmy instance - thus it will become embedded into the code itself that anything defederated by Lemmy.ml will be cut off from the rest of the Threadiverse by default. Which honestly is easy to override by simply adding the communities manually, but still is evidence that the Lemmy devs are already moving in the exact opposite direction of what you suggested should be done. They have placed that extremely firm line in the sand: either accept Lemmy.ml or make your own Reddit alternative on the Threadiverse (which both PieFed and Mbin are doing).

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      they’re definitely better than reddit’s in my experience

      I would place them at a quality on par with reddit at the latest five years ago

      you still get people who insist on not understanding what words mean, but less frequently