I’m wondering if its a legitmate line of argumentation to draw the line somewhere.

If someone uses an argument and then someone else uses that same argument further down the line, can you reject the first arguments logic but accept the 2nd argument logic?

For example someone is arguing that AI isnt real music because it samples and rips off other artists music and another person pointed out that argument was the same argument logically as the one used against DJs in the 90s.

I agree with the first argument but disagree with the second because even though they use the same logic I have to draw a line in my definition of music. Does this track logically or am I failing somewhere in my thoughts?

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    15 hours ago

    Other explanations are great, but I see yet another difference that makes it not the same argument used twice.

    AI does rip off artists because it isn’t inspired by music to make something similar, it is literally regurgitating a combination of data with some randomness so that is sounds like of like a thing. But the current implementation is a rip off primarily because it is an end run around copyright by acting like it ‘learned’ how to make music when it is just parroting it back.

    A DJ creates new songs out of recorded snippets of sound. They treat a sample like playing a note on an instrument, and mix them together as music. It isn’t just a randomly mashed together mess like AI music, it is put together intentionally in the same way as playing a piano or a guitar. There is a lot of inspiration going on, but each DJ has their own style just like rock musicians have their own styles. The most important difference from AI is that at this point in time they do compensate the artists they sample (it didn’t start that way, but was quickly changed).

    So the fact that AI is ripping off artists and DJs who sample don’t makes it not the same argument.