• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    You are cynically wringing your hands about putting criticism where it is owed.

    What isn’t constructive is the cheer-leading. What isn’t constructive is brow-bashing voters.

    It handed two elections to the fascists. Stop it. You are doing real damage.

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      7 hours ago

      I’m not wringing my hands about anything. I am telling you, definitively and unequivocally, that you are saying nothing of value if you don’t attach a call to action to your criticism. Criticise all you want, but then tell people to do something about it. I literally don’t know what you want me to do about the situation because you haven’t said anything except that it sucks. Stop telling me what isn’t constructive and start telling me what is.

      Tell. People. What. You. Want. Them. To. Do. Goddammit.

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        5 hours ago

        You are unequivocally handwringing.

        You can’t keep lying to an electorate and expect them to continue to show up.

        The Democrats are the only party that can stop this, and until the party shows up for the people of this country, not the other way around, nothing changes.

        If you are doing anything other than advocating for Democratic leadership to change, for the Democrats to abandon their pro corporate strategy whole cloth, you are an enemy to progress.

        Democrats, as a party, polled lower than DJT in 2025. Abusing voters by telling them they need to vote for a feckless party that is constantly working against them is litterally pushing voters away from the party. Stop.

        The only path forward is to focus critical on Democratic leadership. EVERYTHING else supports fascists.

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          4 hours ago

          If you are doing anything other than advocating for Democratic leadership to change, for the Democrats to abandon their pro corporate strategy whole cloth

          This is the first time I’ve heard you even get close to something representing a call to action. Give me more of this. How do I advocate for change? Who do I speak to, and how do I amplify that message? Get specific. Stop intentionally mischaracterizing my comments as “handwringing” (how am I handwringing?? I’m not even disagreeing with you, I’m just criticizing your method of communication for being demoralizing and ineffective) and actually give people something to do. It’s all well and good to tell me to “stop because you’re doing real damage,” but the next step is to tell me what to do instead.

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            4 hours ago

            I’m just criticizing your method of communication

            I don’t really give a shit what you think is a good way of communicating. Everything you’ve shown here: Its why Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024.

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              4 hours ago

              I know you don’t give a shit, that’s why you’ve done nothing but make faltering attacks at arguments I never made and attempt to equate me as a person to the failings of our political system. You don’t want anyone to do anything about anything; demoralization was the point all along. I can only hope someone eventually comes along and takes a serious look at this argument, and decides to actually do something with their feelings rather than spew their negativity all over everyone else. Or, knock on wood, that you one day grow up and revisit this thread with the genuine desire to do something constructive with your time.

              Either way, good luck.

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                3 hours ago

                You the one that needs to grow up. This isn’t a fucking sporting match dipshit. You cost us the election last time with this shit. Keep it to yourself.