Star Trek: Discovery S3E12 “There Is A Tide…”

I haven’t actually watched the new show or anything (no untagged spoilers in this thread, please), but this is the general vibe that I get from reading comments from people who have.

  • fox2263@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I feel there was a targeted campaign against this show before it even came out. So many videos appearing in my algorithm saying how bad it was and how it’s doomed and how it’s failed etc.

    I’ve already found it better than Discovery. And it’s not as bad as I was expecting. It’s still fast paced and wish it would slow down a little, and if the camera could stay still for more than 1 second that would be great.

    But besides that, is decent.

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        4 days ago

        From the very beginning. People back in the day were complaining that not only was this Patrick Stewart some poncy theatre bloke instead of someone with real television experience, but he was bald, for goodness sakes.

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          Except that they were correct at being skeptical, and season 1 TNG was crap. Huge improvement came already in season 2, and people started liking it.

          How many series has NuTrek had? How many total seasons? Yeah, it’s still complete garbage to this day.

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            4 days ago

            Except that they were correct at being skeptical, and season 1 TNG was crap. Huge improvement came already in season 2, and people started liking it.

            Though it wasn’t bad because Patrick Stewart was a theatre actor, nor because he was bald. The issues tended to be more with Roddenberry’s rules against having interpersonal conflict amongst the crew, or scripts that weren’t very good/not written with the TNG crew in mind.

            How many series has NuTrek had? How many total seasons? Yeah, it’s still complete garbage to this day.

            That is a matter of personal opinion, though. People clearly like it enough that we got multiple shows in the current run, rather than it being put away and forgotten about.

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            LOL I didn’t mention NuTrek. Enterprise, for example, had a LOT of people screaming about how bad it was. It’s when I gave up on the Trek fandom - I was tired of the negativity. Like this.

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              3 days ago

              Enterprise wasn’t good. That’s where a lot of problems started. However, in comparison to NuTrek, it’s significantly better still.

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                3 days ago

                Really? I think the show’s so gosh darn horny in that disgusting Rick Berman way all the time that I’d take almost anything over it.

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                  2 days ago

                  Right, so seeing Klingorc boobs and cringe sibling sex is so much better. Or maybe you’re just distracted by all the CGI glitter forcing any semblance of story to take a backseat.

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      4 days ago

      Those videos really exploded in my feed about a week before it came out, and none of them has seen it yet. I don’t know if it’s coordinated or if it’s just the inevitable response of the algorithm rewarding topical hate mongering, but it’s a painfully obvious grift either way.

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        4 days ago

        Yeah I went to watch one as its title and thumb seemed definitive like they had watched the previews or something. Started watching and it was clear they had not seen anything besides stills.

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            3 days ago

            Hey, you know science is all about prediction, right? Once a pattern emerges you can create a model for what to expect. Since the showrunners haven’t changed expecting something different each time would be… The definition of insanity. And there is plenty to pick up from trailers and preview clips that it’s going to be the exact same garbage we’ll always expect from these same showrunners.

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              2 days ago

              How about applied science? You’ve deduced you wont like a show, now what do you do with that fact? If you maybe spend three or four minutes letting everyone know you wont be fucking with this show and then move on to other things, I totally respect you.

              But if you put out multiple forty minute videos of you pouring over every frame of each two minute trailer so you can froth at the mouth about someone wearing glasses or a Jem’Hadar having tits, you’re just eating up bandwidth that could be spent on something meaningful.

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                2 days ago

                Just like I don’t have to spend time watching NuTrek, you don’t have to spend time watching any videos breaking down all its problems.

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                  2 days ago

                  Deal - and we can both make the occasional post on lemmy about how shitty our respective objects of ridicule are. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

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      4 days ago

      STD isn’t exactly a high bar. I’ve seen terrible series that were better than STD, so essentially what you’re telling me, this is still a terrible series.