I just ran into the wonderful error message
the trait is not dyn compatible because method
publish_videoisasync
and boy, what a rabbit hole. I found out about async_trait which resolves this by turning async methods into fn method() -> Pin<Box<dyn Future + Send + 'async_trait>>, but I thought that’s what the async fn was syntax sugar for??? Then I ran into this member-only medium post claiming
Rust Async Traits: What Finally Works Now
Async functions in traits shipped. Here’s what that means for your service interfaces.
But I clicked through every rust release since 1.75.0 where impl AsyncTrait was shipped and couldn’t find a mention of async. Now I’m just confused (and still using async_trait). Hence the question above…
Breaking down what
async fnin trait does, it converts it to afn method() -> impl Future<Output=T>, which breaks further down intofn method() -> Self::__MethodRetwhere the generated associated type implementsFuture.This doesn’t work for
dyn Traitbecause of the associated type (and the factmethod()needs a dyn-safeselfparameter).Instead, your methods need to return
dyn Futurein some capacity since that return type doesn’t rely on associated types. That’s whereasync_traitcomes in.Box<dyn Future<...>>is a dyn-safe boxed future, then it’s pinned becauseasyncusually generates a self-referential type, and you need to pin it anyway to.poll()the resulting future.Edit: also, being pedantic, associated types are fine in dyn traits, but you need to specify the type for it (like
dyn Blah<Foo=i32>. Even if you could name the return type from anasync fn, it’d be different for everyimplblock, so that’s not realistic here.If I understand what you’re asking…
This leaves out some details/specifics out to simplify. But basically:
async fn foo() {} // ^ this roughly desugars to fn foo() -> impl Future<()> {}This meant that you couldn’t just have (stable) async methods in traits, not because of async itself, but because you couldn’t use impl Trait in return positions in trait methods, in general.
Box<dyn Future>was an unideal workaround (not zero-cost, and otherdyndrawbacks).async_traitwas a proc macro solution that generated code with that workaround. soBox<dyn Future>was never a desugaring done by the language/compiler.now that we have (stable) impl Trait in return positions in trait methods, all this dance is not strictly needed anymore, and hasn’t been needed for a while.
I ran into the same issue not so long ago and at least for
no_stdI had to resort to using theasync_traitcrate. (The project isno_stdbut hasalloc)I can’t recall the exact error so it might have been due to mixing async and non-async methods in the same trait. I would have to look at it again…
dyncompatibility of the trait itself is another matter. In this case, an async method makes a trait not dyn-compatible because of the implicit-> impl Futureopaque return type, as documented here.But OP didn’t mention whether
dynis actually needed or not. For me,dynis almost always a crutch (exceptions exist).
Oh I was in your position like A month ago… You’re gonna love dealing with Dyn compatibility and Async. I lost half of my hair because I kept pulling on it and smashing my head against the wall
I’m tired, boss 🥲
I’m not informed on all the details, but a key difference between the
async_traitmacro and a native async keyword is thatasync_traitgives you that boxed, trait object type. IIUC the thinking is native support should not automatically box futures, which implies it shouldn’t usedyneither. UsingBoxanddynis an easy way to make sure the code works no matter what type of future a method returns. But the trade-off is some runtime overhead from heap allocation (due toBox), and dynamic dispatch (due todyn).According to areweasyncyet.rs:
async fn in trait method not stabilized yet
- Workaround is available as an attribute macro: async-trait


