• Formfiller@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      Democrats always break ranks and magically vote with republicans any time it matters. I’ve seen it my entire life and I’m getting pretty old. They’re literally owned by the same oligarchs and Israel

      • fedupwithbureaucracy@lemmy.world
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        21 hours ago

        Okay so you’re dense. What’s the point of democrats that vote like republicans? Stop trying to make the party far right. Expell those democrats from the party.

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          21 hours ago

          Ideological purity tests are not something we can afford if we are going to try and take majority control and actually progress a sane agenda. We would lose this vote even if 100% of Dems vote against it.

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            20 hours ago

            Moderates. Are. Complicit.

            The possibility of majority control does not exist within today’s democratic party - they exist to lose.

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              There is no way to get a majority without including moderates. Never has been, never will be. (At least until we we get rid of FPTP voting which will only happen through Democrats).

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                The only thing that’s gonna happen with Democrats is a continued shift to the right. If we overlaid today’s political scale with 1980 Democrats would be to the FAR right of Reagan

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                  16 hours ago

                  Ah yes, 1980s Republicans were famous for their support of gay marriage and their compassionate take on the AIDS epidemic.

                  Do you people even think about these bogus claims before you repeat them?

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                    15 hours ago

                    Democrats as a party did not support gay marriage to benefit LGBTQ communities. They supported it to neuter the political power that we had, that same political power they saw in action during Reagan to get what we wanted for gay rights and AIDS. We were the ones that participated in actual protests that created change. not this ineffective rally BS that liberals call protest. We started to see again in Harris’ campaign they will throw us back under the bus as quick as a Republican.