says the guy who’s party literally just voted to fund these known murders.

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    7 Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to fund them. It’s unconscionable, and those seven should be primaried, as well as party leadership who decided not to do a whip vote, but blaming the entire Democratic Party, including the Senate which hasn’t voted yet and is vowing to block it, is quite ignorant, to be honest.

    What are you hoping to accomplish by responding to Senate Democrats saying they won’t allow the funding, by saying “You already allowed the funding”?

    Wait for the Senate to vote, see if they keep their word. Don’t preemptively blame them for the thing they’re saying they’re going to try to stop.

    And if they don’t keep their word, run for their seat and primary them. But all this “Dems are fascist-lite/controlled-opposition” seems like a combination of foreign disinfo and right-wing psyop, both of which are meant to sow discord and weaken opposition. And it’s working, because idiots like you keep falling for it.

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      If you haven’t seen establishment Dem’s efforts to maintain the power of the GOP and this new fascist paradigm, you have paid zero attention and are just as painted-face-sports-fan for the Dems as MAGA is for Trump.

      I’m not saying we don’t vote Dem. We should all vote Dem. Entirely NEW dems. Every incumbent must go, every last one. I stopped caring when they stopped caring about us. Fuck every last one, I hope they end up prosecuted at the Hague with the GOP who enabled this. Or at least disappear into obscurity.

      We have no advocates in federal power.

      We also have a LOT of pro-establishment Dem accounts being made across Lemmy with account ages less than a month old. That part makes me go “huh.” It should make everyone roll their eyes.

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        That’s precisely the kind of no-nuance take that I would expect from maga.

        Pointing out obvious untruths and presenting easily verifiable facts is not the same as being pro-establishment Dem.

        I’m not happy about the response seen so far, and I think any Dem who votes with Republicans should be primaried. I think the Democratic Party leadership should be replaced. But painting the entire Democratic Party with a broad-brush and saying they’re all to blame/controlled opposition/fascist-lite is as I said both counter-factual and counter-productive.

        There are plenty of Democrats voting against Republicans and doing all they can to oppose them, and lumping them in with republicans and DINOs is not going to help the situation.

        Just because they currently have a minority and the way the system is designed makes it extremely difficult for them to oppose the majority party doesn’t mean they’re all complicit. If you want to see them make a difference, try voting in more Dems so that they get a sabotage-proof majority.

        Until then, try directing your ire at the people who are actually to blame, such as republicans and the 7 House Democrats who voted with them.

        Adam Schiff is not the problem, and attacking him for making headlines with an oppositional statement is only going to disincentivize any remaining Democrats from speaking up or standing out. And that is not what we need.

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          Every last one needs to go, you have presented ZERO case for allowing these useless traitors to keep representing us.

          Seriously? Arguing for ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS on Lemmy? What are you even smoking? Do you think this is some tuned-out liberal site?

          No really, what’s your game. You in India? Philippines? Russia? making a dime trying to protect these old liches? Have a conscience, quit this stupid game.

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            Just ignore everything I said and keep your head up your ass, why don’t you? I’m not going to bother repeating myself if you’re just going to keep ignoring reality and pretending I said things that I didn’t.

            You in India? Philippines? Russia?

            Projection much? You trolls keep telling on yourselves.