In my local jail, it can take up to a week to be able to call someone but typically more like 3 days. This is because the phones in the holding cells are often broken, so you need to wait until after bail is set and you go upstairs, and then they charge money to make the calls. Meaning, if you don’t have an account already set up, you’re going to have to wait until someone is willing to show you how to set it up. That’s just for regular criminal issues.
Believe it or not but most cops aren’t as virtuous as Stabler and don’t have a pretty blonde DA around to challenge them over what they would be willing to do to seek justice. And a “good” attorney can often work around that.
But also, that doesn’t change anything. From skimming the article, it sounds like he wasn’t being interrogated without a lawyer. He was just being left to languish in confinement. Which… is how the us legal system “works”.
This is less “ice are bad” and more “all cops are bastards”
Yeah not really though. They say that answering any question waives that request again. Like what is your name? If you don’t repeat the request for the lawyer it’s waived.
In my local jail, it can take up to a week to be able to call someone but typically more like 3 days. This is because the phones in the holding cells are often broken, so you need to wait until after bail is set and you go upstairs, and then they charge money to make the calls. Meaning, if you don’t have an account already set up, you’re going to have to wait until someone is willing to show you how to set it up. That’s just for regular criminal issues.
When someone requests an attorney, all questioning stops dead. If they continue on, it becomes fruit of the poisonous tree.
That doesn’t apply in this case, they dint care about court cases. The arrest and torture is the only point.
Believe it or not but most cops aren’t as virtuous as Stabler and don’t have a pretty blonde DA around to challenge them over what they would be willing to do to seek justice. And a “good” attorney can often work around that.
But also, that doesn’t change anything. From skimming the article, it sounds like he wasn’t being interrogated without a lawyer. He was just being left to languish in confinement. Which… is how the us legal system “works”.
This is less “ice are bad” and more “all cops are bastards”
Yeah not really though. They say that answering any question waives that request again. Like what is your name? If you don’t repeat the request for the lawyer it’s waived.
And police lie.
so just shoot them or strangle them in holding. That’s what is going on.
Obviously, this is why you should keep your habeas attorney on retainer at all times. (/s)