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ickplant@lemmy.world to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 3 days ago

Bears or no bears?

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Bears or no bears?

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    Some constellations, including the Great Bear, were named long before our languages even existed.

    Etymology wise we might say it comes from ancient Greek, but it’s also called Great Bear in languages that have no origin in Greek.

    Wikipedia - Cosmic Hunt

    I’m going out on a limb here, but I believe the Great Bear is actually named after a great bear.

    Not all cultures though. In Brazil, the Big Dipper is also known as “large anus of the snake”.

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      Essa eu não sabia. Isso vem de alguma língua indígena?

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        “not all cultures in the southern hemisphere named it because it is always either close to the horizon or invisible. For instance, the Brazilian Tucano people called it the Large Anus of the Snake and in Samoa it forms part of the Heirloom Warclub.”

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          The Tucano people are a group of Indigenous South Americans in the northwestern Amazon, along the Vaupés River and the surrounding area. They are mostly in Colombia, but some are in Brazil.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucano_people

          That explains why I’ve never heard of them as a Brazilian. That area is so far removed from most of Brazilian cities!

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      i don’t think names in other languages is great evidence, because they could just have adopted the same name regardless, since they presumably adopted the greek constellations as well.

      Most cultures used to have their own almost entirely different constellations, the only stuff i think has some overlap is the really obvious simple ones like the southern cross.

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        The thing is that native American didn’t get the name from Greek, yet, it is still reference to a bear.

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          which cultures are we talking about here? i kinda don’t feel like going through every single set of native american constellations looking for ones that are bears…

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            https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-trace-society-rsquo-s-myths-to-primordial-origins/

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