It’s always been this way. You’re just upset you have to be confronted with it rather than having it be hidden and silent. Protestors have always been killed or hurt. Immigrants have always been persecuted.
And everyone is political, they just don’t care to make it a everyday of every moment facet of their identity, activist do. Most people are not, and never will be, activists. And that’s fine.
And you don’t win average people over by screaming, crying, and lecturing them how awful they are for not being ‘as upset’ as you are. Or why they aren’t ‘doing anything’. You push them away from your cause.
9/11 is really where the modern world was birthed in terms of American politics.
Sure it’s been terrible in the past, but it hasn’t always been this terrible and for about 30 years or so it has been restrained (Rodney king protests). It went Cold War during this time and most adults 40 and below have known relative peace in the U.S. in conjunction with government sanctioned violence towards our own people.
Don’t twist these ideas with a flawed concept of we “always have done it this way ” as if human society hasn’t progressed whatsoever. With this outlook we would have been living in caves and fields all the way up to now. It’s like oppressive defeatism, and it’s just utterly pointless.
Just because things have been one way doesn’t mean it can’t be changed.
The world is not binary and we can always push forward for positive changes.
I asserted you were wrong and listed why I said that to you.
You begin the ad hominem attack by telling me to study more history without providing any reasoning behind your claim.
You could have said “oh just look at the Tulsa Massacre, CIA Activities, government toppling, agent orange, My Lai Massacre, the treatment of minority groups throughout our countries history, slavery, systemic racism and injustice, rampant corporatism, resource guarding, Kent State Massacre, political assassinations of civil rights leaders, mkultra, fbi congress bribing scandals, the Tuskegee experiment, and etc”
you deliberately ignored the nuance of the first half of my message to respond with the same tired message of “America Bad”.
We are both allowed to express our opinions, and mine is that even if my first point is wrong, we can do better.
You just went full circle and now are arguing in support of what I originally claimed.
You’re just mad I didn’t spout off specific incidents and made some grandiose claim that one incident is the ‘root’ of all of this.
You are just being petty and trying to ‘one up’ me. Yeah, it’s a ad hominim attack, because you’re attacking me for an ad hominem reason. You don’t like the way I said something.
I don’t regard you argument as nuanced at all. I regard it as crude and biased to living memory as if our current atrocities are somehow unique and special, they aren’t. Americans always have hated each other and should out internal enemies amongst their fellow citizens. The enemy just changes over time, but there is always one.
This is why the left in this country is such a joke. lots of petty people trying to ‘have the better argument’ rather than just shut up and agree. or worse, trying to be ‘more enlightened’ about an issue, or ‘more woke’ or whatever buzzword virtue status bullshit they are chasing for clout.
Everything is normal.
It’s always been this way. You’re just upset you have to be confronted with it rather than having it be hidden and silent. Protestors have always been killed or hurt. Immigrants have always been persecuted.
And everyone is political, they just don’t care to make it a everyday of every moment facet of their identity, activist do. Most people are not, and never will be, activists. And that’s fine.
And you don’t win average people over by screaming, crying, and lecturing them how awful they are for not being ‘as upset’ as you are. Or why they aren’t ‘doing anything’. You push them away from your cause.
First time you’ve been right in this thread.
They hated the frog, because it told the truth.
You’re just wrong, but that’s alright.
9/11 is really where the modern world was birthed in terms of American politics.
Sure it’s been terrible in the past, but it hasn’t always been this terrible and for about 30 years or so it has been restrained (Rodney king protests). It went Cold War during this time and most adults 40 and below have known relative peace in the U.S. in conjunction with government sanctioned violence towards our own people.
Don’t twist these ideas with a flawed concept of we “always have done it this way ” as if human society hasn’t progressed whatsoever. With this outlook we would have been living in caves and fields all the way up to now. It’s like oppressive defeatism, and it’s just utterly pointless.
Just because things have been one way doesn’t mean it can’t be changed.
The world is not binary and we can always push forward for positive changes.
study more history.
american history has always had oppressed groups being throw in camps and persecuted.
the world existed before 2001.
Yeah, you are right!
The world did exist before 2001, and yet clearly your reading comprehension skills don’t exist in the year 2026.
Yeah, I’m stupid. Please tell me more how wrong I am daddy. You are so correct and right.
The patriot act is the source of all evil, and Americans never hated each other before then!
I asserted you were wrong and listed why I said that to you.
You begin the ad hominem attack by telling me to study more history without providing any reasoning behind your claim.
You could have said “oh just look at the Tulsa Massacre, CIA Activities, government toppling, agent orange, My Lai Massacre, the treatment of minority groups throughout our countries history, slavery, systemic racism and injustice, rampant corporatism, resource guarding, Kent State Massacre, political assassinations of civil rights leaders, mkultra, fbi congress bribing scandals, the Tuskegee experiment, and etc”
you deliberately ignored the nuance of the first half of my message to respond with the same tired message of “America Bad”.
We are both allowed to express our opinions, and mine is that even if my first point is wrong, we can do better.
You just went full circle and now are arguing in support of what I originally claimed.
You’re just mad I didn’t spout off specific incidents and made some grandiose claim that one incident is the ‘root’ of all of this.
You are just being petty and trying to ‘one up’ me. Yeah, it’s a ad hominim attack, because you’re attacking me for an ad hominem reason. You don’t like the way I said something.
I don’t regard you argument as nuanced at all. I regard it as crude and biased to living memory as if our current atrocities are somehow unique and special, they aren’t. Americans always have hated each other and should out internal enemies amongst their fellow citizens. The enemy just changes over time, but there is always one.
This is why the left in this country is such a joke. lots of petty people trying to ‘have the better argument’ rather than just shut up and agree. or worse, trying to be ‘more enlightened’ about an issue, or ‘more woke’ or whatever buzzword virtue status bullshit they are chasing for clout.