No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate. If they escalate anyway, then they expose themselves as the violent fascists that they are. That’s important. Public perception does matter.
“No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate”.
They already ARE escalating, and have been for months, without an excuse. They don’t need an excuse.
“If they escalate anyway, they expose themselves as the violent fascists they are”.
They already have. Now what? What happens when they expose themselves and everyone can see the violent fascists they are? The adults come back into the room and remove their privileges?
If you think this is the maximum extent of how far they could escalate things, you are delusional.
There’s a reason why they wear masks, why they lie, manipulate and spread propaganda: because they can’t yet act with total impunity. If they could they wouldn’t bother with the masks or the secrecy, they’d just roll their tanks down every main street in the nation, capturing and/or killing anyone they felt like. They want that, but they can’t possibly get away with that. Yet. There are too many citizens and social, cultural, and political institutions preventing them from the full, violent takeover that they want.
However, if they can convince enough Americans that the “violent, traitorous left” is a serious enough threat, that they need to be given the powers to really take forceful control, then maybe. That’s why they want us to commit violent acts against them, so they can portray us as violent socialists hell bent on destroying America. THEY WANT US TO ACT OUT VIOLENTLY AGAINST THEM. They’re hoping for it.
You know who knew this? Martin Luther King. He didn’t advocate so strongly for nonviolent resistance just because he wanted to be a nice, peaceful guy. He did it because he knew the white supremacists desperately wanted to goat black civil rights activists into acting out violently, so that they could then go before a mostly ignorant, white populace and say, “See! See how violent these blacks can be?! We need to respond with force!”
I’m telling you, trying to fight violence with violence is a very poor strategy. Maybe it will eventually come to that. Maybe a full out, knock down, drag out fight is inevitable, but we’re not there yet. Don’t be so quick to go to war. Not when it can still be prevented.
They can’t possibly get away with doing more? Why not? What will be the consequences if they escalate unprovoked? Whatever those consequences would be, they should be implemented NOW
I think you need to read a lot more civil rights leaders that aren’t MLK. Do you think MLK existed in a vacuum? Do you think MLK and peaceful protest alone lead to change? If you do, you are believing a lie.
They’ve already exposed themselves. What are you waiting for? What is your line? When they come for you? Offer an alternative that isn’t just “wait until things are REALLY REALLY BAD and then that will be our opportunity to point at that; and pointing at that fascist state will somehow defeat it.”
As we learned from Superman (2025) and Zootopia 2, all that’s required to stop the bad guys is reveal their evil to the public. Then they will magically lose their power and be held accountable. What’s that? The crimes of Trump’s regime have already been exposed repeatedly? But they haven’t been arrested, removed from power, or even lost much reputation? Fuck, now what?
It’s frustrating how many people actually think the world is like a superhero movie.
It also doesn’t help that we teach history in the same form as well. Rarely much time spent on the unnamed masses that actually make things change. And if we do it’s only because they protested peacefully a lot. Or were justified in fighting some “ultimate evil” that liberals will only agree exists decades after the fact.
Have you not been paying any attention?
THEY FUCKING ESCALATE WITHOUT AN EXCUSE ALL THE TIME.
Where is this bullshit “oh guys let’s not agitate them it might make it worse”
THERE’S NOT MUCH WORSE THAN LOSING FREE ELECTIONS
ESCALATE. FIGHT. FUCK THEM.
No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate. If they escalate anyway, then they expose themselves as the violent fascists that they are. That’s important. Public perception does matter.
“No. That’s exactly what they want. They want us to give them a reason to escalate”.
They already ARE escalating, and have been for months, without an excuse. They don’t need an excuse.
“If they escalate anyway, they expose themselves as the violent fascists they are”.
They already have. Now what? What happens when they expose themselves and everyone can see the violent fascists they are? The adults come back into the room and remove their privileges?
If you think this is the maximum extent of how far they could escalate things, you are delusional.
There’s a reason why they wear masks, why they lie, manipulate and spread propaganda: because they can’t yet act with total impunity. If they could they wouldn’t bother with the masks or the secrecy, they’d just roll their tanks down every main street in the nation, capturing and/or killing anyone they felt like. They want that, but they can’t possibly get away with that. Yet. There are too many citizens and social, cultural, and political institutions preventing them from the full, violent takeover that they want.
However, if they can convince enough Americans that the “violent, traitorous left” is a serious enough threat, that they need to be given the powers to really take forceful control, then maybe. That’s why they want us to commit violent acts against them, so they can portray us as violent socialists hell bent on destroying America. THEY WANT US TO ACT OUT VIOLENTLY AGAINST THEM. They’re hoping for it.
You know who knew this? Martin Luther King. He didn’t advocate so strongly for nonviolent resistance just because he wanted to be a nice, peaceful guy. He did it because he knew the white supremacists desperately wanted to goat black civil rights activists into acting out violently, so that they could then go before a mostly ignorant, white populace and say, “See! See how violent these blacks can be?! We need to respond with force!”
I’m telling you, trying to fight violence with violence is a very poor strategy. Maybe it will eventually come to that. Maybe a full out, knock down, drag out fight is inevitable, but we’re not there yet. Don’t be so quick to go to war. Not when it can still be prevented.
They can’t possibly get away with doing more? Why not? What will be the consequences if they escalate unprovoked? Whatever those consequences would be, they should be implemented NOW
I think you need to read a lot more civil rights leaders that aren’t MLK. Do you think MLK existed in a vacuum? Do you think MLK and peaceful protest alone lead to change? If you do, you are believing a lie.
Look, go play soldier then. Go ahead. Go on, March to war. Good luck, I hope you win.
They’ve already exposed themselves. What are you waiting for? What is your line? When they come for you? Offer an alternative that isn’t just “wait until things are REALLY REALLY BAD and then that will be our opportunity to point at that; and pointing at that fascist state will somehow defeat it.”
As we learned from Superman (2025) and Zootopia 2, all that’s required to stop the bad guys is reveal their evil to the public. Then they will magically lose their power and be held accountable. What’s that? The crimes of Trump’s regime have already been exposed repeatedly? But they haven’t been arrested, removed from power, or even lost much reputation? Fuck, now what?
It’s frustrating how many people actually think the world is like a superhero movie.
It also doesn’t help that we teach history in the same form as well. Rarely much time spent on the unnamed masses that actually make things change. And if we do it’s only because they protested peacefully a lot. Or were justified in fighting some “ultimate evil” that liberals will only agree exists decades after the fact.