• TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    But you are essentially arguing for doing nothing

    No, that’s not true. I am arguing that we must be smart about what we do. Nonviolence is not the same as doing nothing.

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      9 hours ago

      Do you have a line? Like, how many people need to be executed by the feds? Is violence never justified in response to federal violence? Or do you have a line?

      How many? 10? 100? 1000? At what point do you suggest fighting back? And I am not even advocating for a vigilante violence. I’m literally talking about preparing an organized defense that is armed.

      You can’t wait until your chosen number of dead is reached. By then it’s too late.

      How is what I discussed not being “smart” about what we do? It’s literally about preparing an organized state defense to the fascist literally executing and kidnapping people RIGHT NOW.

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        9 hours ago

        Do you have a line?

        What’s yours? If your line has been crossed, you go do something about it. Go ahead. I’m rooting for you.

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          8 hours ago

          Good job avoiding the question. My line was crossed already. I am. I’m the person out there with the sign today (something I doubt you are even doing, but literally just telling us to keep doing that, to keep getting tear gassed, keep getting shot with pepper bombs).

          If you were even doing the thing you were advocating for. That is. “protesting peacefully” you wouldn’t have the ignorant perspective you have. Stop advocating for something you clearly aren’t even doing.

          By the time your line gets crossed you’ll be too scared to even go hold a sign.

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            8 hours ago

            You’re right, I’m too scared. I’m clearly not cut out for this resistance stuff. But I’m sure you’ve got what it takes, so I’m pulling for you. Go get those fascists!

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              3 hours ago

              I guess you’re just using sarcasm to deal with denial of what is happening.

              I get it. The things I’m talking about needing to be done are likely not going to happen. I would say we are both coping with the reality in different ways.

              I don’t want to be upset with you for dealing with it another way. I guess I just think you’re holding onto the idea of a world (or the USA) that no longer exists.

              I think there is no way to a better future that isn’t fought for against the current systems that exist. You, I am assuming, are trying to restore something (and if I’m being critical that “something” is a delusion of the past). It’s why it’s so difficult for you to state any concrete plan as I have. Your advice was “be careful” and then fell back on just belittling any talk of organized resistance as some form of adventurism.

              It’s why you have to pretend I’m talking about something I’m not talking about. You act like I’m talking about some vigilante form of resistance. And I never have been.

              I wish you’d try to continue the conversation instead of just falling back on sarcastic responses that criticize a position I don’t hold.