• Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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      14 hours ago

      If you buy the current science on global warming, literally yes. The politics of generations ago still affect us to this day, including such things as the fossil fuel industry’s massive prevalence.

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        14 hours ago

        OK, so I voted for harris. And it’s cold this year.

        apparently my voted caused it to be cold this year.

        did i vote wrong if i didn’t want it to be cold?

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          13 hours ago

          You’re not interested in good faith discussion, so literally fuck off!

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            13 hours ago

            is in good faith discussion if I start pointing out the absurdities that come from your arguments? that are massively overgeneralized?

            lots of things are apolitical. most people are not thinking about politics every moment of everyday. even if you are.

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          13 hours ago

          Something like the climate is a centuries long process to change. Your vote moved the needle one way or the other, absolutely. But something like the climate takes generations, multiple administrations, choices, processes…

          So like… You didn’t vote for it to be cold, no. You voted for a person who had a set of policies that will impact the world, moving things in a certain direction. And further, the fact that the world is as it is now is the result of all of those previous votes throughout history. You live IN politics. You are not exempt from it, your world is literally molded by it.

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            12 hours ago

            you are basically arguing for the butterfly effect. i open my car door, does that cause a typhoon in japan?

            if i did, how could it ever be proven?

            and if things are so deterministic, what is the point of making choices really?

            most of us are not that important. my vote for harris did nothing to help or harm the climate or change weather patterns. i won’t be here in 50 years, let alone 500, so it climate policy is irrelevant to me.

            I vote all the time. just don’t have any delusion that my vote is this big huge deal or that I’m ‘changing the world’. I also don’t care about a lot of issues, and that’s fine. I am limited being with limited time and resources and I not everything I do is an explicit endorsement of any politics. Perhaps for you it is, but for me it’s not.

            Just like maybe you enjoy PB and J sandwiches, and I do not. People are different. Some people don’t ever have a PB & J sandwich in their life, and the concept doesn’t exist to them.

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              6 minutes ago

              I rarely come across comment chains so dumb I hope they’re trolls and not an actual person thinking that way