• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    They responded to this in the past: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/israel-west-bank-and-gaza-travel-advisory.html

    This kind of thing is entirely predictable and US citizens have been warned by the State Department about there being an active conflict happening in the area.

    So a US citizen died while ignoring a travel advisory from the US government. US citizenship doesn’t make someone invincible, and it doesn’t mean the US military is going to avenge your death (or whatever fantasy you can come up with) if you’re deliberately ignoring the warnings about an area of the world being dangerous. The obligation of protecting citizens was fulfilled by issuing the warning.

    • orcrist@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      There is no legal obligation to protect citizens. Is there an ethical obligation? Kind of no, for reasons you listed, but kind of yes, because the cause of death was predictable and it’s something in the US has partial control over.

      From a practical standpoint, we all agree that the US won’t do anything, because they certainly aren’t worried about pacifists in war zones where one of the sides is getting its weapons from the United States.

      • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Although there are a bunch of ways the US can apply pressure. I think people overestimate the power ceasing weapon sales would have. While I believe it is the ethically right thing to do. It wouldn’t really hinder Israel’s ability to wage this war. It is allowing them to maintain their very vast stockpiles. But they could probably go years without even getting low, much less running out, without external weapons.

  • InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Protesting in a war zone of a foreign country on the side that started it and knowing how Israel is executing a genocide is a whole new level of stupid.

  • SassyRamen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Americans are upset, just politicians are afraid to lose their annual bribes if they talk outside of church.

    • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      The other side gives bribes too. The only difference is that Israel has a stronger lobby and a bigger pot to finance their payoffs.

      This will never end until we get the money out of politics.

      • 4_degrees@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Wait, what’s the other side that pays folks to free Palestine? Honest question, because if they exist, they sure are doing a shit job.

  • sumguyonline@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    Democrats are limp wristed when it comes to Israel. Expect more death, they won’t raise a finger to stop it. Republicans aren’t any better.

    • InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      Both sides huh? Last I heard the Democrats are negotiating a peace treaty and the Republikkklowns are writing finish them on the bombs.

      What’s your angle?

      • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 months ago

        Amazing how that it’s already done peace deal still isn’t done. Almost like dems and bibi don’t care about getting it done

        • InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 months ago

          I love your blaming the dems as the world sits by. It’s wild how the dems are more powerful than world combined. Weird almost.

          • nednobbins@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 months ago

            The rest of the world combined isn’t funneling billions of dollars worth of weapons into the conflict.

            • InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              2 months ago

              The 10 year weapons deal signed in 2016? You do you, I’ll blame Israel for the genocide and the rest of the world that isn’t pushing for a peace treaty like the US currently is.

              • SoJB@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                2 months ago

                Let me get this straight. Liberals are now, unironically, using international law as a defense for being the primary arms supplier of a literal genocide. And that’s supposed to be an excuse to vote Blue MAGA.

                Lmao