

At some point we’d have to start importing TVs from the other side of the Great Chinese Firewall to avoid unwanted US tech. It’s getting ridiculous.


At some point we’d have to start importing TVs from the other side of the Great Chinese Firewall to avoid unwanted US tech. It’s getting ridiculous.
Oh that looks like a nice resource.


Yes and my point is that even if the corpo pays, which it absolutely should, that’s not the end of the economic effect when that resource is used to the limit at the moment. We will end up paying too.


The demand for construction workers? If so, it could, if there’s enough unemployment. Otherwise workers from some other industry would have to shift to construction. Creating a shortage in that industry. Switching industries is a more difficult process than getting an unemployed worker to work in construction though. But if there’s already a labour shortage in the construction industry, then that answers the question. There isn’t enough unemployment or shifting from other industries to fill the demand. And there seems to be one.
If there’s underemployment in construction or higher unemployment, then yeah, the construction labour market would likely expand without much effect in housing and infrastructure.


When unemployment is low in the construction sector, we can’t have them pay. When they pay, they’ll outbid us for workers who were previously building homes and public infrastructure. We’d either have to outbid cloud for these workers, or we’d pay by having higher housing prices and crumbling infrastructure, which incurs other social costs. Real resources are finite. The only way for us to not pay is for them to not build the power plants and datacenters. In a truly democratic system we’d be able to say no. In this system, capital outvotes us.
E: I’m not arguing that the corpos shouldn’t pay. They should. I’m arguing the economic effect doesn’t stop with that payment and we’re still fucked.


It’s also the only way to save it from destruction driven by its major shareholders.


Yup, there’s definitely use cases but the battery is a no-no. It has to be replaceable even if it compromises the design a bit.
Are there any a|ternatives to n8n?


Sounds like a problem with the hosting of lemmy.world. I think they’re using Hetzner. I don’t think Lemmy cares at all what IP you come from.


Yup. I opted for mininally computerized Whirlpool based on some of his stuff in 2020. Mainly because they’re simple and there’s plenty of parts and repair people who can fix them in Canada.


But the top 20% can still spend. That number is going to drop off a cliff when the stock market tumbles, and the spending with it.


If you look at the history of capitalism you could observe the stage where capitalism does put profits into R&D is temporary. Eventually capitalists reach enough power that lets them generate profts without significant reinvestment and instead spend them on luxury goods. Happened in the late 19th/early 20th century. It’s happening now as well. In-between that there was a massive state intervention that took significant economic power from capitalist class and put it into the state. The period when capitalism worked well for the majority was a deviation from the mean. Relevant.


Chromium was created by the KDE community which needed HTML rendering in… the 90s? Then it was taken up by MS competitors who wanted to make a rival of Internet Explorer and they “created” WebKit. Nokia, Apple, BlackBerry, later Google and many others contributed to WebKit which became Safari and eventually Chrome. At one point Google broke off from that codebase to create Blink.
I’ll give you that you’ve got a decent narrative and I wouldn’t have objected much if Google was the “Don’t be evil” company it used to be in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Which is also when they acquired Danger and released their src as Android. We’re not in that world anymore. I don’t give a flying fuck where the innovation is because I can rely on GCC being here 50 years from now, when the current corporate players be long gone.
Again, I really wish we lived in 2015 when people (and I) trusted Google enough to make it trivial for me to advocate for their projects and products.


For sure. I’m considering corpo software as a liability by definition.


Kinda. But also kinda not. The cost of getting a phone made has decreased and there are many, many manufacturers who can make one for you these days. From that perspective, if you have small niche where people are alright with paying a bit of a premium, it may in fact be easier to make a phone for them than say in 2012.
The total device cost will be 499 EUR or 599~699 EUR as the “normal” price with the voucher deducting from the phone’s cost if/when available.
This price for a low volume device would have been completely unachievable in 2012.


They knew they could be overlords and were that before The Great Depression too. We are just surpassing the level of wealth inequality that was reached prior to the system collapsing back then. What followed in the 40s and 50s was an abnormal period created by the implementation of a significant number of socialist policies that stemmed the desire for blood by the disposessed masses. These fuckers have been working to dismantle them ever since. If we find a formula that allows for such reforms to stick for longer than several decades, that would be nice. There’s good reasons for skepticism though.


Steve still doesn’t quite see that this is the capitalist system working as intended - serving the owner (capitalist) class, but he’s definitely getting radicalized by the current reality of it.


It’s still informative. His other stuff is good too.


Good vid but he’s falling a bit for the corporate propaganda that costs determine prices and that consumers have real power over price setting. Most firms maximize prices while minimizing costs. Consumers have especially little market power in a consolidated market like home appliances.
Yes. The way things ate going, at some point it may become less harmful and easier to deal with unwanted Chinese tech than American. Pay much lower profit margins as a bonus.