• mesamune@lemmy.worldOP
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    My suggestion, get as many private copies of emulators you can before they go after all the Github ones. Seems to be more and more take-downs are happening lately.

    It really is too bad we dont have a federated github alternative. I know theres some projects in development, but I can see the emulator scene getting harder and harder to get into if popular repos go down. Decades of work, gone.

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      17 days ago

      We do have a federated GitHub alternative. Perhaps not too mature yet, but it does indeed exist. Forgejo

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      Git is a distributed version control system. There doesn’t have to be a single copy of the repo on which everything depends. It’s a choice, and an understandable one, to treat one copy as authoritative, but there’s no reason to despair if it becomes unavailable. Any copy of it will do.

      What GitHub provides that’s hard to do without it is not the repository but the stuff that goes around it: issue tracking, communication tools, discoverability, etc.

      So if people take the distributed nature of Git seriously and make sure they all have a local copy of the repo, we won’t lose the repo itself to Nintendo’s actions. But we may lose the tools that make it easy to coordinate work on the repo.

      Before we had GitHub and issue trackers we had mailing lists and Usenet groups. Not as convenient, bit they allowed people to coordinate work on open source software without a central, corporately owned point of failure. Maybe we should be looking to the early days of FOSS for ideas about how to make these projects resilient against corporate persecution. Not for the exact tools but for decentralized ways of coordinating collaboration.

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        Don’t forget to mirror suitable versions of the scarce dependencies. Sirit, the SPIR-V assembler, for example.

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            Such a good analogy. I’d go further and say all laws are like this. They don’t actually stop anyone from doing anything, and they don’t even guarantee anything will happen to them as a consequence. They’re just lines on the road.

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      Get a device or two, as well.

      Your computer may very well get obsolete when it comes to software support.

      A handheld or console meant to be an emulation console won’t have to move through time. It’ll be as it is after the day you’re done setting it up, like a hacked console.

      Your PC has to keep up with web standards, codecs, online goings on but dedicated, offline devices do not. I may choose an SBC to do this to, and make a copy of the partition housing the emulators and boot drive for safe keeping.

      I also have two different raspberrypi emulation images. Since those are literally everywhere, it’s a sure bet you’ll be able to find one to put the sd card into, even years from now.

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        Just don’t play Nintendo games lol. That’s what I do. I didn’t grow up with these ‘classics’ and I don’t feel like getting into these as an adult. 🤷‍♂️

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          just don’t do it

          Oh, that’s a good idea. Never thought of just tossing my entire childhood and lifetime hobby away because a stranger thinks keeping up with less than a terabyte of old games is hard.

          Lmao. Some of us aren’t vegetables.

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            Some of us aren’t vegetables.

            Oh someone having different opinion makes them a vegetable? Choke on that nintendick while they shove an unlubed dildo up your ass.

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              Get rekt by AAA cock, sheepdick. Pay that subscription lmao. Hail corpo!

              Sounds like someone couldn’t get past the retroarch GUI. Oh well, maybe they’ll put it on gamepass for you someday.

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                You’re a special kind of moron, aren’t you?

                Get rekt by AAA cock, sheepdick. Pay that subscription lmao. Hail corpo!

                Fucking hilarious coming from someone giving a blowie to Bowser. Or other than scrappy Nintendo, every other game company is a AAA slop-serving corpo in your delusionland?

                Sounds like someone couldn’t get past the retroarch GUI.

                Ah elitism too. Figures. Are you going to say you Arch btw next? Which part of ‘I don’t give a shit about Nintendo classics’ was too difficult to get into your brain? Or were you too busy getting pegged by Princess Peach?

                Fucking chutiya.

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                  You’re a special kind of…

                  Copypasted reply? Really?

                  Fucking hilarious coming from someone giving a blowie to Bowser. Or other than scrappy Nintendo, every other game company is a AAA slop-serving corpo in your delusionland

                  Nah, fuck them too. They don’t get a pass. They’re in the sack with the rest of the greedy shits. Nintendo doesn’t even make up the bulk of most classic romsets size, Sony does.

                  Ah elitism too. Figures. Are you going to say you Arch btw next? Which part of ‘I don’t give a shit about Nintendo classics’ was too difficult to get into your brain? Or were you too busy getting pegged by Princess Peach?

                  Is arch another tree you can’t climb? Pegged by princess peach?

                  (if you must know, yeah, my desktop runs arch)

                  Quit projecting, bro. Insults don’t have to come from so deep in the heart. I don’t need to know you that well 🤣

        • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Just don’t play Nintendo games lol.

          Yeah, let’s just throw away everything and never touch childhood games or even games that you do enjoy on actual good hardware. Just because a stranger deems it necessary. Such as good idea /sarcasm

          That’s what I do.

          Alright, good for you.

          I didn’t grow up with these ‘classics’

          Here’s the reason, you might not want to play them now and others do. As someone who did grow up with these games, I love to play them but hate Nintendo and their crappy hardware.

          I can enjoy them through emulation and on a good PC. So I will (and others probably).

          and I don’t feel like getting into these as an adult. 🤷‍♂️

          Okay then don’t?

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      It really is too bad we dont have a federated github alternative. I know theres some projects in development, but I can see the emulator scene getting harder and harder to get into if popular repos go down. Decades of work, gone.

      There is Radicle which is a peer-to-peer forge.

      Edit: Don’t expect all the features of GitHub or Forgejo though.

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      There is no federated guthub because git itself is. Just clone the repo - you’re part of the network already!

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        Microsoft can still remove all copies.

        Whereas another instance can’t delete my account or comments from the instance I’m on. The most they could do is block it from theirs.

        E: no matter how much you downvote, it doesn’t change the facts. GitHub is not Federated. It is owned and controlled by Microsoft. If you fork a GitHub project and host it on GitHub, Microsoft can take both down.

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          No it can’t. You’re still thinking about github and its built in “forking” mechanism.

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            Well yeah, you can copy the code and put it on an entirely different platform.

            But that’s like saying Prime video is federated because you can rip it and keep a copy elsewhere.

            GitHub is the platform, and it’s not Federated.

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      It really is too bad we dont have a federated github alternative.

      There is no “open” alternative for… the exact reasons some code is removed from Github/Lab/Bucket/whatever.

      Someone submits a DMCA request or something similar? Microsoft and so forth will process that and decide if it is valid and so forth.

      If you are running your own instance? That request goes to you and you probably don’t have lawyers or just the willpower to determine if it is valid or not.

      And the federation approach further complicates that. Because good luck explaining the concept of federation to a judge who thinks everyone who uses a computer is a hacker and doesn’t understand why a DMCA to one instance didn’t propagate to your instance and why it is an honest mistake. All while the Nintendos of the world are arguing for your wages to be garnished for the rest of your life.

      And the other aspect is what anyone who runs even a semi-public instance of… anything learns. People are monsters. If you have image uploads you will have CSAM.

      And the last aspect is just practicality. My github is a large part of my CV. I work on projects that I think are fun AND that I think will look good to people I am trying to convince to give me a job. Emulation is already a grey area (it isn’t quite porn, but it can make you look like a liability to many companies). But if you have to link someone to a complete no name site because you are trying to avoid legal action? You aren’t getting hired.

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        You can have an offline gitlab/forgejo and a public github. I do most of my work against a local gitlab, and mirror up to github for anything that needs to be shared.

        I have a couple of projects mirrored down to my gitlab as a backup, and they are not online, so can’t realistically be DCMAd.

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          I mean, you can just as easily just keep a project cloned if the purpose is an offline copy.

          That doesn’t change all the liability problems with running a public repo as well as why most coders aren’t interested in a fly by night one that is designed to escape legal consequences.