• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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      How would you determine what’s “right” enough to be banned and what’s not? Using some state appointed censors?

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    I would rather see them ban all content with minors. Why do kids have to upload anything on the internet? Let platforms enforce it on their end.

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      I mean, we also have a lot of “papers please” in real life that no one has an issue with and actually serves a useful purpose. So the idea of extending this to the internet is logical and not necessarily a bad thing. It can actually provide something good. HOWEVER implemention is absolute key here, because it’s easy to over reach and collect (and store) way more tha! actually required for simple age verification. Since current tendency among politicians (in all nations) unfortunately leans heavily towards over reaching, as usual we can’t have proper things because the douchebags want to ruin it.

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      You mean everyone, not just minors.

      It’s what this madness requires: everyone is a child until they can prove otherwise. To an age verification company that’s existed for 2 weeks and definitely isn’t lying or incompetent…

      And of course they do. Can’t risk a CEO crying wolf and it being real for once. Think of “the economy”.

      I hate this timeline. 😒

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    Sadly I have little faith their proposal will be reasonable. It‘ll either be too soft or asking for unreasonable measures like broad identification and face IDs.

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      Depends from country to country.

      Denmark for example have issued an age verification app, where no data other than “Allowed/Declined” is leaving the app.

      No specific age, no name, no data.

      The token is issued by the government.

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        Does the app require iOS/Android and google play services, and is proprietary?

        Also gives the government data to track people, and presumably what source requested the token, so what the people are consuming. Denmark isn’t the worst country, but I wouldn’t trust any government with that

        Also it locks under 18s out of online communities that could help them and show them alternative perspectives to insular IRL bubbles that can often exist

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          It’s always interesting to me when I hear people who distrusts governments more than private companies.

          Maybe because I’m from Denmark, but it sounds so backwards.

          If I were from the US tho, I would think the same. Or like “i’m fucked regardless”

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    Like cigarettes, yeah it’s worse for kids but it’s not good for adults either. I’d rather see more restrictions placed in the companies making the toxic products than age verification based systems.

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    About time Europe treated addictive feeds like the product design problem they are. The real test is whether this becomes meaningful age appropriate access with privacy preserving checks, or just another glorious cookie banner where everyone clicks »I’m 18« and TikTok solemnly salutes.

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      EU already has systems for verifying age and the provider sends no identifiable information to the website. While I find age verification problematic and annoying - where credit is due, they seem to have at least made it so that the citizen data is not being uploaded to US servers.