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      Any legit news articles that have proof that she has been “planted” by Russia?

      Russia being overjoyed about a candidate or laughing as we don’t know who to vote for, doesn’t mean she’s a russian plant.

      Conspiracy subs are that way ------>

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          None of this proves Stein is a “Russian-planted spoiler”, which is what was alleged and what OP asked for evidence of. All this suggests is that the Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

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            Thank you for restoring my faith in this community. I had no idea that me posting a news article about the Green Party would make a “politics” sub so irrationally angry. lol

            And thank you for explaining about the Russian diversion campaign so much better than I did. If you don’t mind, I will use your wording from now on. Much more clear and succinct than my attempts to say the same thing.

            Guess I’ll keep doing posting about the Green Party tho. Because this is a “politics” sub and not just a “If you aren’t a Democrat, don’t post here” sub. :)

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              It’s all good. As a fellow Green voter from Australia, I always feel sorry for those of you stuck in countries where you can’t simultaneously vote for your Green party and vote against the major right wing party or coalition. You are endlessly subjected to the most deranged attacks from people who just dogmatically repeat the same moronic, doomsday cult talking points like they’re an AI model that was trained exclusively on campaign propaganda.

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                Thank you!! Not only do they attack me in this Lemmy community, they actually follow me to other communities (that have nothing to do with politics) and try to downvote me there. All because I am not voting for their candidate. It’s crazy! lol

                And it hasn’t changed my mind at all. Voting Green! Thanks for your support!

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          You saying that I don’t “seem to be arguing in good faith” implies that I am lying or being deceitful. Not true.

          Nothing in that link shows that she is paid by Russia to spoil the election, or is a russian stooge.

          Russia taking advantage of America’s disconten in voting and trying to throw the election, doesn’t mean that Jill Stein was in on it.

          That’s like me spending money to a hacker, and saying that “user Boddhisatva of Lemmy” is a better CEO of a company than Elon Musk.

          And then say I start tweeting that. Then I start advocating that. I start saying "“user Boddhisatva of Lemmy” every where.

          Does that mean you are my stooge?

          Just because Russia is an asshole, doesn’t mean that Jill Stein is corrupt. Even if you don’t like her.

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          Nice. But any proof that she has been “planted” or paid or conspired by/with Russia? Just because Russia used her name to spread discontent, doesn’t mean that she had anything to do with that.

          They would have picked any third party candidate that had the following she does.

          That’s Russia’s doing, not Jill Steins.

          Also, if she is so terrible, and Harris and Trump are so awesome, then they could totally decimate her in a campaign.

          So why so afraid of her? I mean, there are so many people saying she has “no chance.” Cool! Then easy debate. Right?

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            Lmao okay. Just Jill Stein in December 2015 casually dining with Vladimir Putin, Michael Flynn who worked under the Trump Administration and is now a convicted felon for lying to the FBI about his relationship with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and several high-ranking members of Putin’s cabinet.

            After this, I’m refusing to dignify your sealioning in this thread, because it’s abundantly clear you don’t actually care about either the facts or about course correcting the US’ descent into fascism.

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              Ok, but any proof that she has been “planted” or paid or conspired by/with Russia? Just because Russia used her name to spread discontent, doesn’t mean that she had anything to do with that.

              They would have picked any third party candidate that had the following she does.

              That’s Russia’s doing, not Jill Steins.

              Also, if she is so terrible, and Harris and Trump are so awesome, then they could totally decimate her in a campaign.

              So why so afraid of her? I mean, there are so many people saying she has “no chance.” Cool! Then easy debate. Right?

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                  Because you are refusing to answer the question. Any proof she was/is a russian plant, on a russian payroll?

                  And if you have proof, have you given it to the major news organizations.

                  Or better yet, let’s have open debates, then the Democrat/Republican parties can decimate her with all of this hard proof you have.

                  I mean, hey, let’s finish the Green Party once and for all.

                  They’ve bugged you long enough! This is a perfect time to put her in jail for corruption and fraud.

                  So when are ya gonna make that happen? Maybe send to WikiLeaks? Or the conspiracy sub?

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              Because you are refusing to answer the question. Any proof she was/is a russian plant, on a russian payroll?

              And if you have proof, have you given it to the major news organizations.

              Or better yet, let’s have open debates, then the Democrat/Republican parties can decimate her with all of this hard proof you have.

              I mean, hey, let’s finish the Green Party once and for all.

              They’ve bugged you long enough! This is a perfect time to put her in jail for corruption and fraud.

              So when are ya gonna make that happen? Maybe send to WikiLeaks? Or the conspiracy sub?

              Ohhhh, so now you are “refusing” to dignify me with an answer. Ok, ok.

              Well be sure to contact the news media. This will be front page news!

              Think about it! The green party would be decimated, and then you wouldn’t have to worry about them.

              I mean, they are soooo corrupt. As you have said.

              Ok, fine, so don’t tell me or show me the proof. Please contact the news media. I’d very much like to see an investigative article on this and watch it all crumble down.