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In an ideal world, but haven’t we learned that she’s too female and probably not white enough for America?
The entire point behind “Kamala lost because she’s a woman of color, not because she wouldn’t differ from her unpopular predecessor except to move to his right” is to shut out AOC in particular. The party is willing to hold back all women in order to stifle one person, and it’s gross.
The Democratic president with the largest margin of victory in recent times was a black man and you’re still out here saying we need to court voters that won’t vote for a person of color in order to win. Maybe your read on the inherent unelectability of women is similarly flawed.
Oh, well then let’s run a black man. They not only have 100% success rate, but massively outperformed all the white men. That must mean black skin (as long as it’s not on a woman) is an electoral benefit! Why take a risk with a white person? That’s the heart of your argument, right?
With a sample size of 2 you claim it’s because they were women. I agree with you it was faulty logic, which was their fucking point and the fact you missed that is incredible. Slow down and think.
More men have been on the ticket and failed than woman. The fact that both women failed is because of what they were running with, not because they were women. They were incredibly milquetoast candidates who ran basically on maintaining the status quo.
Obama won so handily because he ran on changing the status quo. Whether he actually did or not is a matter for historians, but that’s what he ran on.
Voters want someone who will fight for them. That’s what Trump, Obama, and Bernie are. They don’t want someone who sits back and talks about how grateful they should be.
The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea
So long as a progressive is a possibility and not one femtosecond longer.
I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes
So we have to (and you get to) support genocide forever too!
I’m saying that if there’s an option to take a risk now when failure means death then it’s best to not take the risk and wait for a time when the alternative is only pain.
It’s neat how quickly timidity develops when the party wants to shut out a progressive. That’s the only thing this has ever been about.
The entire point behind “Kamala lost because she’s a woman of color, not because she wouldn’t differ from her unpopular predecessor except to move to his right” is to shut out AOC in particular. The party is willing to hold back all women in order to stifle one person, and it’s gross.
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The Democratic president with the largest margin of victory in recent times was a black man and you’re still out here saying we need to court voters that won’t vote for a person of color in order to win. Maybe your read on the inherent unelectability of women is similarly flawed.
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Oh, well then let’s run a black man. They not only have 100% success rate, but massively outperformed all the white men. That must mean black skin (as long as it’s not on a woman) is an electoral benefit! Why take a risk with a white person? That’s the heart of your argument, right?
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With a sample size of 2 you claim it’s because they were women. I agree with you it was faulty logic, which was their fucking point and the fact you missed that is incredible. Slow down and think.
More men have been on the ticket and failed than woman. The fact that both women failed is because of what they were running with, not because they were women. They were incredibly milquetoast candidates who ran basically on maintaining the status quo.
Obama won so handily because he ran on changing the status quo. Whether he actually did or not is a matter for historians, but that’s what he ran on.
Voters want someone who will fight for them. That’s what Trump, Obama, and Bernie are. They don’t want someone who sits back and talks about how grateful they should be.
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So long as a progressive is a possibility and not one femtosecond longer.
So we have to (and you get to) support genocide forever too!
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It’s neat how quickly timidity develops when the party wants to shut out a progressive. That’s the only thing this has ever been about.
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I guess you know the party is going to shut out progressives forever and love it.
And I get that every centrist interprets all criticism of their party as trump support, but I voted for Harris.
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So you don’t know much about American politics and toe the centrist line. Ok.