• Taco2112@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

    These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

    I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        2 hours ago

        I don’t know if I like soup. The only soup I ever had was cambells, and it was awful. But then everybody tells me that cambells is the bottom of the barrel scum of the soup world.

        So maybe I just don’t like cambells.

      • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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        5 hours ago

        And also being so confident, you don’t need another man to tell you you’re a big strong masculine man.

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      7 hours ago

      Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

      I don’t remember all the details, but there’s a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren’t always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

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        7 hours ago

        And what does the article say? Eating soup isn’t manly? WTF? I’d like to hear his rationale for that one, but I’d probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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          5 hours ago

          Toxic masculinity is full of shaming men for random things that are arbitrarily defined as not manly. Nothing is more dangerous for a Man than not conforming to masculine gender norms

    • Jay@lemmy.ca
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      8 hours ago

      Pretty much how I see it. Being “a man” is being comfortable with who you are and not being scared about what others think. Putting a dress on and having “Tea” with your kids during playtime is just as manly as playing football. (And looks hilarious when you’re a 6 ft tall biker looking dude with a beard and hairy legs like me.)

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      5 hours ago

      I think men are going to have to define foe themselves what secure masculinity looks like and how to achieve it.