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If they can’t manage to trick the stupids into supporting Medicare cuts, then tricking them into killing themselves with dangerous medical misinformation is another way to reduce government spending.
What an absolute fucking retarded thing to say for insulin dependent people
Ah yes. The 80’s coke heads in charge of things. Think they know better.
They’re all fucking weirdos and idiots if I had a shop I couldn’t trust any if this lot to work the till alone. If they where poor they would have all died by now.
A good rule of thumb whenever I hear anything about what this administration does in regards to health I try to look at it through the lens of eugenics. They want to get rid of the people they consider “weak” and think that using money to help those that need it to be a waste of money. People with autism, weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, poor people, drug addicts, and pretty much anyone else they consider undesirable and less than human. Also, they consider our tax money as their personal bank account as if the country was a company and our taxes are their profits. Pretty fucked up, but it makes more sense than trying to rationalize clearly irrational behavior.
Weird. The only thing I can think is that we should string these motherfuckers up asap.
Sure, but it’s good to know how we got here
That’s how we prevent this, which we did not.
All we have left is reaction.
Robespierre special
A novel approach to cut A1C levels
“Mr. Trump said that if it was up to Mr. Miller there would be only 100 million people in this country, and they would all look like Mr. Miller.” - NYTimes
Ew could you imagine
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Ahh yes, the starvation diet is back on the menu for type 1’s, boys!
I recall back in the day the longest anyone lived on the starvation diet before insulin developed was a year or 2.
depends on how far along typ1 diabetes damages the iselt cells in the pancreas. the diet most likely wont work if you cant produce insulin anymore, especially you can get unreliable walmart reliant otc isulin. theres a slow decline insulin production as your islet beta cells get destroyed.
one of the rare ways around it if someone is on immunosuppressants all the time from organ transplant.
Yeaaah, between an organ transplant and taking immunosuppressant the rest of my life, or just continuing to take insulin, I think I’ll take insulin.
To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.There’s no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.
Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don’t let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.
This is the truth, right here.
To be fair
Well there’s your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).
You do know there are different types of diabetes, right? And a lot of different things that can lead to diabetes?
Some people do get there, in part, due to poor diet, but not everyone.
Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.
Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.
Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.
You guys have chips in schools? Bruh…
Cheerios are a breakfast cereal. Generally considered a relatively healthy one due to their lack of added sugars.
My bad. I was thinking of cheetos
Oh yeah, I can see how you got to “bruh” there.
I know someone said cheerios are cereal, which they are. But we do indeed have chips, or crisps, in our schools.
It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.
Not really. Anyone who actually wants to support Trump automatically falls into that group.
People are too tired and overworked to cook. Poor people are far more likely to spend too much time commuting to work too.
And their suggestion only addresses one type of diabetes. There’s a whole other type of diabetes.
I think its implicit that he’s only talking about type 2 diabetes, which is the vast majority of the cases in the US
I don’t understand why people are still so insistent on being charitable to these scumbags.
Its just basic statistics
I’m referring to the “implicit” part. Giving these people the benefit of the doubt and pretending that they meant something less offensive.
People will die because of these fuck holes.
“Try not being so fat, you fucking fatties” is a reaction I have heard from people who are themselves overweight. It’s genuinely maddening to see how many Americans are sold on the most superficial understanding of “healthy” as “fuckable” rather than “capable and resilient”.
So much of the Trump attitude towards health seems to be geared towards eugenics against old ugly poors.
That’s what’s stupid too is most of the eugenics are directed at things eugenics don’t even “fix” - it doesn’t matter how well bred you are you will get old and we already have plenty of hot and smart poor people, lots of them even have college educations beyond that, beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Killing people is a core tenet of the Republican party.
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This isn’t just stupidity, it’s social murder.
Conservatives hate you and they want you dead. It’s not incompetence, It’s pure malice.
TIL the head of the FDA has the inability to take half a second and google the word diabetes.
No! Stop acting like they’re all stupid, that’s what they want you to think.
He was a pancreatic surgeon at Johns Hopkins. It’s literally impossible for him to not be familiar with diabetes unless he has experienced serve memory loss recently.
He’s pushing eugenics and wanting to kill off people with chronic illnesses
Aka murder, and not some other type of anything. It’s just murder.
This. It’s literally just suggesting “well how about we just let them die”, AKA murder. The HHS especially is now just being filled with eugenicists who are, in general, too chickenshit to just come out and say “well we should kill all of them”.
Chickenshit? Or just shrewd?
Well, I was joking but you make fantastic points and I agree with you.
I’m glad you agree, but the problem is that making jokes of their willful evil is literally helping them. It’s making light of a situation and implying ignorance in their actions. When in reality they are knowingly trying to kill people,
It’s always wild to me when I see people with long, often illustrious careers in things like law or medicine, only to pull something like this that is completely antithetical to everything they’ve ever studied or worked toward, and shit all over their legacy.
Like why the fuck were you a surgeon in the first place? If you had these views, why would you go into a career that focuses on helping to keep chronically ill people alive? What is going on in these people’s heads?
Same shit with people like Alito and Thomas. You spent your entire life studying and upholding the US Constitution, and then you get appointed to the highest court in the nation, and decide “yeah fuck that thing, let’s have a dictator”?
It’s mind boggling. I would really like to just have some insight into what is happening in these peoples’ minds…
Its actually kinda interesting how long they have been taking the “poor and disabled will just kill themselves off” approach. In 2012 Romney was also campaigning on repealing Medicaid and Medicare.
He literally said “people don’t die from a lack of insurance” happy to ignore any chronic diseases and blame the individual.He even had proposed less funding for ambulances and more for services to collect bodies cause he even expected more people to die. We are still there with this party but even more racist and victim blaming while being more aggressive in who the other is while demanding more children to keep capitalism going up… Bunch of the worst people who just want whatever they want and never reality.
Time to go all Wilford Brimley on his ass.
Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn’t young and fit.
Yeah, I’d say yes. It’s a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.
It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:
First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.
Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.
Can we head them off at the pass?
No. Never.
Can we head them off at the pass?
No. Never.
Can it come to pass that their heads come off?
“All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”
No. R3v0luti0n is impossible in a postindustrial society.
So was a housing price crash, until 2008.
The crash was always a built-in undocumented feature of the bubble.
The reason it never crashed before is because it never bubbled before.
The reason it never bubbled before is because the banks never wrote junk mortgages before.
The reason the banks never wrote junk mortgages before was because they didn’t realize that they were “too big to fail.”
Massive wealth inequality also drives the situation, because there’s a small slice of people who can afford anything and they tend to drive up the prices of things for other people who can’t really afford the run-up.
Splendid turn of phrase.
A ton of T2 diabetes is about lifestyle and not much else that’s still absolutely not a reason to deny a person medical care! What’s next? Denying cancer care if they say it happened because of your lifestyle? It’s amoral
Well think about why they’re arguing this point. Break it down logically. What are you actually saying. Like when your wife gets mad you didn’t take out the garbage. Is it really about the garbage or is she mad you banged her sister. There’s usually a deeper issue at the root and you need to find that core belief. This is about the appearance of health and virirlity. They feel victimhood always and so they project strength. T2 Diabetes is a target because of the implication. My wife is mad because her sister is hotter. It’s all about the root.
Once you know the root, you can target their insecurity.
Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way?
Insulin, anyways. I’m sure semaglutide will still be available, since it’s such a weight-loss wonder-drug
This is an effort to kill anyone who isn’t young and fit.
Or also chronically ill. I’m (relatively) young and very fit, but I’m also type 1 and require insulin to live. It’s eugenics, plain and simple.
Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that’s a great idea.
And they should also provide free insulin.
Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?
They’re not going to fund anything. Nothing is free.
It’s a great idea, and they’ll just talk about it while killing the presently funded programs, then do nothing.
Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?
Means Testing your Insulin by telling you to spend hours in your car, away from your family, attending state-mandated privately administered lectures put on by the lowest bidder.
Sounds like socialism to me.
I like it!!
Oh no, you’re thinking of a government that actually wants what’s best for the people living there.
nonononono that’s communism
Yes. All the food should be free too, of course
Challenge Accepted.
We’ll get insurers and Medicaid to fully cover diabetes supplies in no time.
How many cooked billionaires does it take to satisfy the proletariat?
As many as it takes.
Considering that the GOP wants to kill SNAP, it is pretty clear that RFK wants his hands bloodied.
This guy, like the rest of that lot, are butchers of the innocent and trusting.
