In the wake of the U.S. airstrikes on Iran, Democrats are pointing to Trump’s own promises that he wouldn’t ensnare the country in foreign conflicts.

Democrats are seizing on Donald Trump’s surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities to make the case that the world is becoming more dangerous on his watch, not less, and that he is reneging on a promise to avoid foreign military interventions.

The argument strikes at Trump’s contention that his blend of negotiating skills and toughness is enough to keep the United States safe.

In the space of a few days, Trump has made the United States a combatant in another Middle East war that exposes soldiers to potential deadly reprisals, Democrats contend.

In a statement, Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin pointed to Trump’s inaugural address, in which he said he would measure his success by “the wars we never get into.”

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    don’t show up

    They did show up. Kamala Harris won more votes than Barack Obama.

    People talk like the Democrats didn’t successfully twist arms and browbeat supporters into showing up for them in droves. 75,017,613 people voted for Kamala Harris, despite her vile stench.

    Trump simply brought in more.

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      You were correct until the last sentence.

      HitlerPig cheated, and we all know it. Cheating is their brand. They would cheat even if they KNEW they were going to win.

      Dems went right to the “fair & square” line IMMEDIATELY after the election without even taking the slightest look at the evidence.

      Now we are finding evidence in many places of very weird results, and the Dems are still trying to sell the concept of voters who voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig at the top. I’m sure there are a few, but they are as rare as white squirrels. I’ve never met one, and I’ve never seen anyone claim to be one in the media, either. If there are so many of them that it SWUNG THE ELECTION, then let’s talk to these people. Where are they?

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        HitlerPig cheated, and we all know it.

        Nixon accused JFK of buying votes all through Illinois after the 1960 election. And we have ample statistical and anecdotal evidence to suggest the Dem machine in Chicago was absolutely stacking the deck in JFK’s favor. But we also have ample statistical and anecdotal evidence to suggest the GOP machine was stacking the deck in the south of the state.

        Subsequently, when Nixon recaptured the executive branch in '68 (following a series of very convenient political upheavals) he implemented the “Southern Strategy” to win over Dixiecrat leadership and cement a Republican majority across the Gulf Coast for the next 80 years. The same Democrats who had been winning elections on the back of that machine in the 60s/70s became Republicans winning with the same machine at their backs in the 80s/90s.

        This isn’t a problem unique to Trump. It’s baked into the decentralized, county-lead, deliberately opaque and byzantine electoral counting and reporting system. Katherine Harris was fucking with Florida elections in 2000 the same way Brad Raffensperger fucked with Georgia elections in 2024.

        And don’t look too hard at California’s ascendancy of Silicon Valley shills or the cop-lead effort to elevate Eric Adams to the NYC Mayorship or the Richie Torries seat in the Bronx or the current ratfvckery with Cuomo.

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      There is that part about the voting machines and how certain districts got literally 100% Trump votes, which is… pretty impossible.

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        There’s the “machines are rigged” explanation, which I’ve been torn on.

        But there’s also the far more likely “the city officials simply don’t let you in if they think you’re not going to vote for Trump” which I find much more believable.

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          Watch HBO’s documentary Hacking Democracy, and then realize that Republicans, Sociopathic Oligarchs, Russia, China, North Korea, and others, have been operating sophisticated hacking programs ever since. You won’t be torn anymore.

          To believe that extremely powerful forces have NOT been trying to control our elections for years, is extremely naive.

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            You won’t be torn anymore.

            I’ve seen bits of it and heard some of the highnotes covered in other media. I think one of the producers was on the TrashFuture podcast at one point… or another one I listen to.

            Either way, the Russia/China/North Korea/Insert-Evil-Foreigner-Here (but never Israel or Saudi Arabia or Qatar, because we’re friends and they would never dream of…) angle was overhyped, while the degree to which local county clerks and judges fuck with this was under reported.

            To believe that extremely powerful forces have NOT been trying to control our elections for years, is extremely naive.

            Election manipulation, particularly domestically, is a very touchy subject. It’s been proven to depress voter turnout in the receptive demographic. So you’re stuck with this dilemma of trying to alert people to manipulation without deterring them from turning out in the next cycle. The line that both liberals and conservatives throw out is “We have to vote in such huge numbers that they can’t cheat us!” which can be an effective rallying cry in the moment. But it doesn’t work if you don’t ever do anything to address the claims down the line.

            Even when Obama’s campaign swept the Atlantic Coast in 2008, what did his DOJ do to confront all the Bush-era fuckery thereafter? Same with Trump in 2016, screaming “Lock her up!” at Hillary while insisting she’s rigged the whole vote, then… just shrugging and ignoring her while in office. Really kicks the legs out of your base when you spend a year complaining about how inherently unfair the election process has become and then announcing “We won so I guess everything is fine”.