If I was going to answer from the hip I’d probably say something something similar. Taking “virtuous” to mean “good”. Virtuous then to me means something like “benefitting without harming others, or minimizing unavoidable harm”
Typically I’d say riding a bike to your friend’s place is more virtuous than taking a car. Not because it’s harder, but because taking a car has many harms. Burning non renewable fuel and other pollution, encouraging a car-first culture, taking up extra space, extra wear on infrastructure, etc.
Picking up litter I think is virtuous. Making the area nicer. It’s not less virtuous to do it with a broom than your bare hands.
Maybe virtuous also can include “taking on hardship so other’s don’t have to”. Cleaning up litter. Letting someone else sit down on the subway. That kind of stuff. Those aren’t virtuous acts because they’re hard. They’re virtuous because they help people. It would be hard to put a bunch of painted pumpkins on the street, but that’s not benefitting anyone, so I wouldn’t say it’s virtuous.
Virtue is probably detracted if you’re doing it for gain. If I’m getting paid to pick up litter, it’s less impressive.
Anyway. Writing this on my phone while walking. Kind of a rambling answer, but hopefully it supports my position of “it’s not difficulty alone that elevates an act to virtuous”
I’d say we’re fully in agreement then. I certainly didn’t mean to imply that adding difficulty alone was somehow automatically virtuous. It’s maybe better to say there’s virtue in doing some things the hard way.
If I was going to answer from the hip I’d probably say something something similar. Taking “virtuous” to mean “good”. Virtuous then to me means something like “benefitting without harming others, or minimizing unavoidable harm”
Typically I’d say riding a bike to your friend’s place is more virtuous than taking a car. Not because it’s harder, but because taking a car has many harms. Burning non renewable fuel and other pollution, encouraging a car-first culture, taking up extra space, extra wear on infrastructure, etc.
Picking up litter I think is virtuous. Making the area nicer. It’s not less virtuous to do it with a broom than your bare hands.
Maybe virtuous also can include “taking on hardship so other’s don’t have to”. Cleaning up litter. Letting someone else sit down on the subway. That kind of stuff. Those aren’t virtuous acts because they’re hard. They’re virtuous because they help people. It would be hard to put a bunch of painted pumpkins on the street, but that’s not benefitting anyone, so I wouldn’t say it’s virtuous.
Virtue is probably detracted if you’re doing it for gain. If I’m getting paid to pick up litter, it’s less impressive.
Anyway. Writing this on my phone while walking. Kind of a rambling answer, but hopefully it supports my position of “it’s not difficulty alone that elevates an act to virtuous”
I’d say we’re fully in agreement then. I certainly didn’t mean to imply that adding difficulty alone was somehow automatically virtuous. It’s maybe better to say there’s virtue in doing some things the hard way.