Me as Gen Z trying to get all my Gen Z friends to join Lemmy, not very successfully. Though to be fair, I’m basically as old as you can be and still be Gen Z.
My introduction is subtle. I text content to people. When they ask me where I get it (it’s happened twice so far), I say Lemmy. They say, “what’s that.” Gives me an opportunity to explain the similarities and differences with (advantages over) Reddit. No takers yet, but it’s coming.
i wish there was a useable german instance for the general public.
discuss.tchncs.de is great but as the name says, rather for techy people
feddit.org is borderline unusable garbage between political shit-takes (constant bickering and non-constructive arguments) and generally a very non-open mood, it feels to me.
Yeah it’s hard to get people to join when you explain how instances work and then immediately follow up with “never ever use [list of instances] because they oppose democracy and want the west to nuke itself.”
On Reddit there’s a lot of “lemmy’s too complicated to be adopted by the general public”. Ik we don’t all have the same tech literacy but it doesn’t seem that complicated, like, do you understand emailing? Then you understand most of what lemmy is… (also you don’t even have to understand the intricacies to enjoy your experience there)
I don’t think its just complexity, its a semi-ghost town if you venture out of the political topics.
I mean, there was never a GoT community, The Expanse Community, Rick and Morty, Squid Game, or like even a GTA community. Inactive communities with 1 post every 3 month doesn’t count.
Like this is really just a place to vent about life, and for general everyday discussions, not for topic-specific discussions.
Maybe part of why Lemmy skews older is because this is basically what “old” Reddit felt like.
Before Reddit became the Walmart of internet forums that put all the little guys out of business and gained enough critical mass to have a niche community for every topic under the sun, it was just a quirky place that catered towards tech, politics, and this exact sort of “general everyday discussion” you’re talking about.
I loved that era of Reddit, and I love that Lemmy is providing something that’s close to that experience.
I wonder how Lemmy and other parts of the fediverse or alternative web like Gemini Protocol would be if it gets adopted by let’s say 1/10 of the world.
I think: pretty much as amazing as the internet in the 90s/early 2000s.
i think lemmy skews older because of the more complicated sign-up process and people being more tech-inclined around here and a bit more mature than the general public. and i love that, btw. less shallow “entertainment” and more memes and especially based arguments about things.
Frankly I think it’s simply that the public doesn’t particularly care to figure it out. As an analogy, people use Windows because that’s just what their computer came with, and therefore saying that Linux is free (as in price) is a meaningless selling point to them. You don’t convince Windows users to switch by saying that Linux is free, you convince them by saying that Linux is more convenient, stable, and less annoying.
In the same way, you don’t convince the public into using Lemmy by arguing about why open protocols are better. You convince people by saying that Lemmy is basically like Reddit but not overrun by bots and spammers
I literally have explained the open protocols for social sharing that were released years ago. I tried to tell them that nobody can track you. And the ads they see don’t go to corps but literally no buy in from my friends and family. My sister has a blue sky account and I told her she was part if the Masterdon/Lemmy federation. She just thinks blue sky is a better twitter, for now.
Me as Gen Z trying to get all my Gen Z friends to join Lemmy, not very successfully. Though to be fair, I’m basically as old as you can be and still be Gen Z.
My introduction is subtle. I text content to people. When they ask me where I get it (it’s happened twice so far), I say Lemmy. They say, “what’s that.” Gives me an opportunity to explain the similarities and differences with (advantages over) Reddit. No takers yet, but it’s coming.
Same here we playing the long con.
i wish there was a useable german instance for the general public.
discuss.tchncs.de is great but as the name says, rather for techy people
feddit.org is borderline unusable garbage between political shit-takes (constant bickering and non-constructive arguments) and generally a very non-open mood, it feels to me.
Yeah it’s hard to get people to join when you explain how instances work and then immediately follow up with “never ever use [list of instances] because they oppose democracy and want the west to nuke itself.”
On Reddit there’s a lot of “lemmy’s too complicated to be adopted by the general public”. Ik we don’t all have the same tech literacy but it doesn’t seem that complicated, like, do you understand emailing? Then you understand most of what lemmy is… (also you don’t even have to understand the intricacies to enjoy your experience there)
I don’t think its just complexity, its a semi-ghost town if you venture out of the political topics.
I mean, there was never a GoT community, The Expanse Community, Rick and Morty, Squid Game, or like even a GTA community. Inactive communities with 1 post every 3 month doesn’t count.
Like this is really just a place to vent about life, and for general everyday discussions, not for topic-specific discussions.
Maybe part of why Lemmy skews older is because this is basically what “old” Reddit felt like.
Before Reddit became the Walmart of internet forums that put all the little guys out of business and gained enough critical mass to have a niche community for every topic under the sun, it was just a quirky place that catered towards tech, politics, and this exact sort of “general everyday discussion” you’re talking about.
I loved that era of Reddit, and I love that Lemmy is providing something that’s close to that experience.
sick.
I wonder how Lemmy and other parts of the fediverse or alternative web like Gemini Protocol would be if it gets adopted by let’s say 1/10 of the world.
I think: pretty much as amazing as the internet in the 90s/early 2000s.
i think lemmy skews older because of the more complicated sign-up process and people being more tech-inclined around here and a bit more mature than the general public. and i love that, btw. less shallow “entertainment” and more memes and especially based arguments about things.
Hell yeah 🤘🏻
Hey now the green text community is doing well, though I wish we got some of the spicy shit.
Frankly I think it’s simply that the public doesn’t particularly care to figure it out. As an analogy, people use Windows because that’s just what their computer came with, and therefore saying that Linux is free (as in price) is a meaningless selling point to them. You don’t convince Windows users to switch by saying that Linux is free, you convince them by saying that Linux is more convenient, stable, and less annoying.
In the same way, you don’t convince the public into using Lemmy by arguing about why open protocols are better. You convince people by saying that Lemmy is basically like Reddit but not overrun by bots and spammers
Re:
I literally have explained the open protocols for social sharing that were released years ago. I tried to tell them that nobody can track you. And the ads they see don’t go to corps but literally no buy in from my friends and family. My sister has a blue sky account and I told her she was part if the Masterdon/Lemmy federation. She just thinks blue sky is a better twitter, for now.
Bluesky uses a different protocol to mastodon.
It’s also not particularly decentralized / federated, despite what their marketing might say.
That’s not really true anymore.
There is multiple different instances now. I can use bluesky without using bluesky’s servers.
I can run my own federated relay and AppView servers now?
You can.
Relay’s are less expensive now, it’s about 24 a month.
app.wafrn.net is a tumblr thing with atproto support.