Exactly. It’s even worse, I make it analogous to police.
When your organization is supposed to stand for X but a significant portion of it does Y, you don’t get to say “Oh it’s just some of them…” motherfucker your organization is supposed to be FULLY against Y
By that logic, it might be safe to say that I’m even worse than you’re describing because I don’t consider myself part of that organization.
But you might have a point that I somewhat understand. I used to volunteer at my friend’s church as often as possible, because I loved what they did for the community, how they supported LGBTQ+ rights, the fact that they also suspected a leader of being creepy around kids and excommunicated/reported him. But then, when the older folks in his congregation successfully switched the church from UMC to GMC, and the younger and more liberal members didn’t revolt, I stopped associating with the church altogether.
I’m starting to kinda get a clearer picture because, I definitely get the “some cops are decent people, but they’re bastards for joining the ranks because ACAB.” But, in the past, I’ve not been able to say “fuck the religious community” because they’ve actively rebelled against pedophilia. But looking at the communities now, suddenly supporting queer-hate and genocide, I see the cracks forming in my rose-colored glasses.
If I understand correctly what you’re saying, “organized religion doesn’t require joining an organization that has a disturbingly lax (at best) approach to dealing with pedophilia. Therefore, even the best members are still members of an organization that’s terrible on a larger scale. Just like how they can choose to join a problematic organization, they can defend their own choices without me carrying their water for them.” Is this more or less correct?
Exactly. It’s even worse, I make it analogous to police.
When your organization is supposed to stand for X but a significant portion of it does Y, you don’t get to say “Oh it’s just some of them…” motherfucker your organization is supposed to be FULLY against Y
By that logic, it might be safe to say that I’m even worse than you’re describing because I don’t consider myself part of that organization.
But you might have a point that I somewhat understand. I used to volunteer at my friend’s church as often as possible, because I loved what they did for the community, how they supported LGBTQ+ rights, the fact that they also suspected a leader of being creepy around kids and excommunicated/reported him. But then, when the older folks in his congregation successfully switched the church from UMC to GMC, and the younger and more liberal members didn’t revolt, I stopped associating with the church altogether.
I’m starting to kinda get a clearer picture because, I definitely get the “some cops are decent people, but they’re bastards for joining the ranks because ACAB.” But, in the past, I’ve not been able to say “fuck the religious community” because they’ve actively rebelled against pedophilia. But looking at the communities now, suddenly supporting queer-hate and genocide, I see the cracks forming in my rose-colored glasses.
If I understand correctly what you’re saying, “organized religion doesn’t require joining an organization that has a disturbingly lax (at best) approach to dealing with pedophilia. Therefore, even the best members are still members of an organization that’s terrible on a larger scale. Just like how they can choose to join a problematic organization, they can defend their own choices without me carrying their water for them.” Is this more or less correct?