• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    5 小时前

    The Irish called it “Irish Democracy” when they were under British rule, the silent, dogged resistance of millions who simply ignored laws they found illegitimate. Don’t protest. Don’t riot. Just don’t comply.

    Um…

    We already have two incompatible visions of what America should be. One side wants a multi-ethnic democracy with a social safety net. The other wants a white Christian ethnostate with unlimited corporate power. These cannot coexist indefinitely.

    Okay, but that’s also not true. The “blue” states are more than happy to extend unlimited corporate power to right-wing plutocrats. Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and the Big Three Auto Giants are all based out of Liberal turf. They’re centered in bright blue municipalities, even. The liberal institutionalists don’t seem to lift a finger for fear of wounding the Golden Geese of industrial fascism.

    Blue states could request UN election monitoring.

    The OSCE and the OAS already employ election monitors within the US.

    The author of this article seems deeply misinformed. Neither can I find any corroboration of the research findings. I can only note that countries like South Korea, Chile, Cuba, and Mexico all ultimately ousted their fascist dictatorships and resumed a semblance of democratic function within a decade or two of their coups.

    Fascism isn’t a permanent state of affairs nor is it a particularly stable form of governance (particularly over continental-sized landmasses). Fascist state leaderships can and do fail, paving the way for reformists and revolutionaries of varying stripes. And those reforms/revolutions can, in turn, fail and give birth to new generations of fascist government.

  • Rimu@piefed.social
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    The number of times a liberal democracy older than 50 years has turned to fascism - also zero.

    Liberal democracy is surprisingly resilient, once it matures.

  • limer@lemmy.ml
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    6 小时前

    If a population in a democracy cannot insist on public counting of ballots, and instead rely on private companies to tell them who won.

    Then there is no hope for change until there is a complete replacement of the entire political class. And that can only happen in the future

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        The degree to which people lack confidence in the mechanisms of the election gives way to people disregarding election results they don’t respect or support.

        When a democracy is working, you’re ostensibly satisfying a majority (or significant plurality) of the public. When it has been undermined through manipulation, corruption, or fraud, you end up with a public told they’ve selected a candidate that only rarefied minority actually supports. The end result is civil unrest, which prompts unpopular leaders to staff up larger security forces, which furthers tension into an outright armed struggle.

        Voting systems that feed into people questioning election results ultimately undermine the democratic system. But candidates who are deeply unpopular winning general elections also feed into people questioning election results.

      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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        Voting machines that are not open source, and do not print a paper ballot for public verification are the problem. They grant the capability to steal an election without an audit trail.

        There’s a reason they were implemented, and their numerous proven vulnerabilities have never been fixed, and that reason was to steal elections. I’m not saying the election was “stolen” via direct election fraud, but there’s no way to know for sure.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    Okay, then, time to just give up, I guess.

    /s

    They’ve never tried in the U.S., with our government system. What happened elsewhere before means nothing.