This is a comic about AI art.
  • the_q@lemmy.zip
    158·
    22 days ago

    The difference is the generated images weren’t created from work or imagination, it was stolen.

    • rnercle@sh.itjust.works
      102·
      22 days ago

      owning “imagination” or ideas, images or even melodies is a new idea for humanity. For most of our history people wouldn’t even think of owning an idea and profiting from its reproduction.

      • atomicorange@lemmy.world
        51·
        22 days ago

        If I paint a study of Van Gogh’s Starry Night, even though I painted it it’s NOT my art. Trying to sell a reproduction without acknowledgment that I’m not the original artist is forgery and fraud.

        • rnercle@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          21 days ago

          If I paint a study of Van Gogh’s Starry Night, even though I painted it it’s NOT my art. Trying to sell a reproduction without acknowledgment that I’m not the original artist is forgery and fraud.

          you’re still looking at art through the lens (window, frame) of today, my comment was to remind that this proprietary way of seeing art wasn’t always the norm. “Original artist” is itself a product of the market. There were no fraudsters, only artisans making images.

          Van Gogh is an interesting example, whose paintings wasn’t worth a cent during his life. Others, later on, profited from his work.

          Art world itself is full of absurd examples working on these ideas. (Latest must be the Comedian.

          • Senal@programming.devEnglish
            4·
            21 days ago

            Sure, but that’s not the only way people have guarded ideas.

            Secret societies, artisan guilds that only taught it’s members and on occasion killed people who find out their secrets, professions taught only to the direct student.

            Just because the formal idea of something was recorded doesn’t mean it wasnt around before.

            As people we are constantly hoarding knowledge and ideas to benefit is individually or as a tribe.

            • rnercle@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              21 days ago

              As people we are constantly hoarding knowledge and ideas to benefit is individually or as a tribe.

              rather ☞ As people we are constantly sharing knowledge and ideas to benefit collectively

              • Senal@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                20 days ago

                They aren’t mutually exclusive concepts, both can be true.

                The point was that guarding ideas didn’t start with formalised copyright.

        • rnercle@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          21 days ago

          “history” has a clear definition and implies writing… i would have written but apparently my understanding is considered “old conception” now ☞

          The use of symbols, marks, and images appears very early among humans, but the earliest known writing systems appeared c. 5,200 years ago. It took thousands of years for writing systems to be widely adopted, with writing having spread to almost all cultures by the 19th century. The end of prehistory therefore came at different times in different places, and the term is less often used in discussing societies where prehistory ended relatively recently. It is based on an old conception of history that without written records there could be no history.

          • Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            21 hours ago

            Socrates railed against writing. He is credited with saying that it was a crutch that would reduce the human capacity to remember things.