• DSN9@lemmy.ml
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    First one to build the unconnected EV where the purchaser has admin rights (and no one else), wins the race.

    Unfortunately, this model is probably already deemed illegal. Regulatory capture is a beautiful thing 👀😬🙊

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    All I want is a car with modern engineering and simple technology. I’m fine with crank windows and a radio I can easily swap out. But I would like an engine that gets more than 7MPG and has crumple-zones that aren’t my face. I don’t need touchscreens and sensors for everything. And I sure as fuck don’t want the manufacturer pushing out “updates” that can brick my car.

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      Worst thing is they are collecting info on what people do in the car. Here is an article on Nissan monitoring sexual activity inside car.

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      You and me both.

      Where are the shops retrofitting decent cars with electric engines? Gimme that EV 911 from 1988. . . for . . . 11 thousand? Okay fifteen.

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      My manual transmission Subaru Impreza has Android Auto and a Reverse Camera. That’s the most advanced part of the car. It’s a dinosaur otherwise, with a transmission and drivetrain that debuted in 1999 and an engine that’s rough but reliable. The instrument cluster has two gauges - speed and RPM. The rest are on a calculator LCD that displays numbers for fuel and miles travelled, and a billion different danger lights that tell you if there’s a problem somewhere. It also has electric windows and door locks. And cruise.

      The problems the car has as it gets older are none of the electrical bits - they all work fine. It’s the rear wheel bearings, suspension bushings, and center differential that wear out over time. Ironically, the most basic, mechanical parts.

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      I’m curious to see if there will be simpler electric cars in the future. Like the bare minimum electric circuit to make the car go forward. I could see a DIY kit for something like that. But the security standards these days ask for way more sensors and cameras to reduce risks of accidents wich is fair tbh.

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        I picture an electric car with almost no dashboard at all. Just one dial for speed and another for remaining charge along with your odometer if you feel you must have that info. Maybe estimated mileage, but even that’s just spare info to someone who’s used to a classic fuel gauge.

        In a car, the interior should fall away and the car should become an extension of the driver. Only by feeling the need to preserve the car do you drive with the necessary attention to protect yourself.

        People seem to treat cars like roaming living rooms instead of the farm equipment they really are.

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            If someone can jailbreak their kindles then hopefully someone can jailbreak the car haha

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          You mean the Bezos mobile? Not a chance in hell.

          Ownership has been flipped upside down for modern EV owners (and actually a lot more). You don’t own the machine, nor the keys, you license the experience- software, data, and even the ability to start/ move the vehicle. 30k+ for remote access, EULAs, feature subscriptions to a connectivity mesh? Also the monthly connectivity costs and software updates for… how long?

          I’m not sure EV’s are the brilliant solution to modern transport, entertainment perhaps but little to nothing to do with modern or futuristic transport.

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          I’m hopeful for a future awd version.

          I have no interest in driving a rear wheel drive in the snow.

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      I almost did something like this for my 1995 Exploder. Y’know how you can buy a crate engine and then *simply drop in a new engine? There are some companies that make electric motors that interface with your transmission and now you have an old vehicle with a new motor!

      Before I could make any major decisions like that, though, one of my neighbor’s told me that his friend had been looking for that exact same year and color Explorer after she lost her car in a flood, so I gave it to her. I never really got too far in my research, so I don’t know much about the real cost and extent of work involved in these electric crate engines.

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        You can’t just throw a crate engine in. My current car (2012 Hyundai Tucson) is a “California engine”. My family is in auto, and we went to a guy who replaced the engines on my uncle’s fleet. $6500 because the engine itself was so hard to source and replace with all the bullshit sensors, and an extra $1k for the rental I needed for 2 weeks while they tracked an engine down.

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      My 2014 Kia Rio has crank windows, no cruise control, 6-spd manual trans. No touchscreens–only buttons.
      Car is very slow (1.6L non-turbo) but gets ~36mpg average. I’ve gotten as much as 40 when actually driving for mpg.

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        I think they were doing the Nissan Versa like that for a while too. But it’s definitely not common and should be for cars that aren’t economy-boxes. And just to lay my shit out, I guess, my progression was: 1991 Plymouth Acclaim, 1990 Chevy Caprice Classic (loved that car), 2000 Chevy Monte Carlo (it blew up!), 2007 Hyundai Tucson, 2012 Hyundai Tucson.

        I AM in the market for a new car…eventually. Have replace the engine on this one already and know it’s on its last legs. But I don’t see anything out there that I actually like. I kinda liked the Challenger, I guess…but I honestly am thinking about going back to cars from the 90s/80s again. I legit miss my Caprice.

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          Fuck dude, I drove 94 Acclaim across the country, and it was a pos then, but I miss that car. My current is a 05 Sierra, barebones, not even a radio anymore, I really like that it doesn’t have much to break, and it’s decently cheap to fix still

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          A friend of mine had a Caprice Classic. Such a good car. It was soft and smooth and the economical 305 V8 made good torque while still getting good mpg!

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            It was a boat on wheels. But mine only got 7MPG. And that “twilight sentinel” nonsense never worked right. It did have some decent pickup for its size though.

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        A 1.6 in a car that light isn’t all that slow. That’s what, nine seconds? Not a race car, but cars used to be so much slower.

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          Yes, slow by modern (and my) standards but compared to older cars it’s quite good.
          And while peak power is low it makes decent torque in the midrange and is tuned well for daily driving.

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      Back camera, cruise control, no radio (data, fm, or am), no stupid fucking touchscreen interface, a dedicated phone holder, and I’m happy. My phone has plenty of sounds to play while I drive and I’ve literally never needed anything a car touchscreen has offered.

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        While I tend to agree with most people here, simpler is better and fuck touchscreens in cars, but I do prefer to have a functioning AM/FM radio. It doesn’t have to be anything fancy, hell it doesn’t even need USB/MP3/CD player or anything else, but living in a hurricane prone area, I like to be able to get emergency news reports even in the event the cell towers go out.

        Katrina was no fun yo, especially when we found out the hard way that a chunk of the eastbound Interstate 10 bridge had collapsed. We sure could have used a working radio to find stuff like that out…

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      42 minutes ago

      Protip: this is a crosspost, OP “linked” to another post on lemmy

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    I don’t get it? Why can’t car companies just release software updates that get deployed with the regular service interval, like once every year or two? That way the repair service or dealership will be close by if problems arise.

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      Better yet, why don’t they just write the shit competently and correctly the first time?

      And don’t tell me it’s too hard; that’s the way real software engineering used to be done when stuff shipped on physical media and couldn’t be patched, and still is done for stuff that actually matters (avionics, etc.). They just want to pretend PC-level half-assery is acceptable because it’s cheaper.

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        The penalty of doing it wrong needs to be higher than the cost of doing jt right.

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      Because then they’ll actually need to do recalls instead of just patching issues with an update.