Given every single shelter I’ve ever been to in Germany lists adoption requirements for each cat (one of them if they are a freeroamer or bot, i.e. need outside access) and would not let you adopt a cat if you can’t provide them, with the professionals at the shelter even pointing out that “taking away outside access from a cat can, depending on the cat, amount to factual animal abuse” (roughly translated)… yeah, sorry, but there’s zero chance any anecdote here could convince me.
I’ve already posted an example on another reply. Right now they even got an additional box above the list stating that “most our current cats do not accept being held only indoors” (the green one), given that’s what most people look for. Most of them specifically state “Freigang” (Freeroam) as requirement.
Cats are cautious, they won’t just bound outside. It takes a while to get comfortable. Either way though, I’m sure your cats are mostly happy, its not too big a deal either way.
Yes yes, you have an opinion that you are attached to, and nothing is going to sway you. But keep your bullshit rationalizations and psychological bulwarking under your hat; the lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.
Maybe youll have to require me, I dont think I said anything that obtuse. I personally let my cat out because keeping her inside was for my benefit, not hers. I could understand people who have a different opinion though, its not cat abuse to keep them indoors.
My last comment was more poking fun at the concept of reading a cats emotions to this degree, but apparently I wasnt very clear about that.
Absolutely they can. Perhaps not all of them but I have lots of first hand evidence that outdoor cats and even feral cats can become happy housecats.
Given every single shelter I’ve ever been to in Germany lists adoption requirements for each cat (one of them if they are a freeroamer or bot, i.e. need outside access) and would not let you adopt a cat if you can’t provide them, with the professionals at the shelter even pointing out that “taking away outside access from a cat can, depending on the cat, amount to factual animal abuse” (roughly translated)… yeah, sorry, but there’s zero chance any anecdote here could convince me.
I’ve already posted an example on another reply. Right now they even got an additional box above the list stating that “most our current cats do not accept being held only indoors” (the green one), given that’s what most people look for. Most of them specifically state “Freigang” (Freeroam) as requirement.
I’ll just have to believe you they are happy? I bet they spend 95% of their day stuck to a window or screen wishing they were outside.
normal cat behavior.
projection. none of my indoor cats have ever tried to get out despite them all being avid birdwatchers.
Cats are cautious, they won’t just bound outside. It takes a while to get comfortable. Either way though, I’m sure your cats are mostly happy, its not too big a deal either way.
Yes yes, you have an opinion that you are attached to, and nothing is going to sway you. But keep your bullshit rationalizations and psychological bulwarking under your hat; the lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.
Maybe youll have to require me, I dont think I said anything that obtuse. I personally let my cat out because keeping her inside was for my benefit, not hers. I could understand people who have a different opinion though, its not cat abuse to keep them indoors.
My last comment was more poking fun at the concept of reading a cats emotions to this degree, but apparently I wasnt very clear about that.
An empathetic owner can tell whether their animal is happy or not.