• Krudler@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m sorry to tell you that’s not really true.

    The general attitude in Canada is that most Americans are complicit, uneducated, unprincipled, and themselves guilty.

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      2 days ago

      155 of 340 million Americans voted.

      To me, this means that 185 million people, with the exception of a small percentage, didn’t care, or was fine with whatever, making them complicit.

      In addition to that, 77 million voters, voted for Trump.

      So 262 million Americans either voted for Trump or were complicit in the decision that was made by their countrymen. That’s a whopping 77% of Americans either asked for this or they were completely fine with it if this was the outcome.

      So yeah. There’s some Americans, about 23% that tried, at least… The rest of the Americans are either complicit or wanted this… And as a Canadian, that 77% is why I’m actively avoiding American made goods, and I will continue to do so, regardless of tariffs, for the next few years… I’ll probably stop around 2029 or so… We’ll see how things go from there…

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          2 hours ago

          That doesn’t make it better.

          Also chat GPT is hardly a source of good information.

          Stop asking chat GPT to do everything and think for yourself.

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            1 day ago

            Rather than argue over that detail the point is it doesn’t make sense to blame the entire population and turn it into more apathetic voters than voters. Our numbers are bad enough on their own, thanks

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      2 days ago

      That is completely true. Even the ones who don’t like this are just saying “Aw drats! I guess we just have to vote harder next time!” Without actually examining why we lost in the first place or any systemic issues that led to this.

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      Well, if that’s the case, that’s a shame, as it simply means Canadians are having an emotional over-reaction to the situation and it’s biasing them into blaming an entire group for only part of that group’s actions.

      I suspect some Canadians see it the way you describe and others see it the way my Mom described. I’d be interested to know if there’s any correlation with political alignment.

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        2 days ago

        Perhaps, but I’m not going to debate or engage in that conversation. Just letting you know that your report from somebody else’s experience is not reflective

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        2 days ago

        Opinions are diversified, like anything else. It’s difficult to generalize. My brother in law lives in a small town, doesn’t speak English, and is a Trump supporter. But for me, I think at least half the US population voted for this. They are lacking education and as much as it’s difficult to blame people for being manipulated, at some point, I can also see them as very naive and gullible. I’m not blaming all the population of the US, but there’s a significant chunk of it that holds part of the blame.

        AFAIK it’s also why some states were hit harder than others by the boycott, because Canadians targeted the red states first. And for the rest, you know, “collateral damage”. Sorry.

        Also, you try not to have an “emotional over-reaction” when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded. If Xi from China said a few times, just jokingly, that the US should be part of China, and that a few other Chinese politicians started to push the idea of annexing or invading the US too, I don’t think most Unitedstaters would see the Chinese government, and a part of those people pushing for this, with a neutral view.

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          2 days ago

          Also, you try not to have an “emotional over-reaction” when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded.

          I understand the response, but it’s still biased and wrong. Don’t think angry Canadians don’t have my empathy—I’d be pissed for a few days too, probably. But it’s important to not let your emotions cloud your thinking and your judgment. To the extent that angry Canadians blame the entire U.S. population for Trump, while understandable in a certain light, they’re still wrong.