It’s the second such lawsuit from Reddit since it sued another major AI company, Anthropic, in June.
But the lawsuit filed Wednesday is different in the way that it confronts not just an AI company but the lesser-known services the AI industry relies on to acquire online writings needed to train AI chatbots.
“Scrapers bypass technological protections to steal data, then sell it to clients hungry for training material. Reddit is a prime target because it’s one of the largest and most dynamic collections of human conversation ever created,” said Ben Lee, Reddit’s chief legal officer, in a statement Wednesday.
Reddit themselves stole something that they didn’t create and only questionably have rights to, which is the content of their users.
Reddit didn’t make reddit. Reddit users paid the server costs for over a decade. Reddit users built and managed every single community. Adding to that, reddit is and always has been trash, especially from a software perspective. Reddit barely played a role in building reddit.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
I can’t believe they’re fighting over who gets access to my shitposts. I wouldn’t trust an AI trained on the bullshit I made up.
Any time I hear about an LLM freaking out and acting bizarre (like the seahorse emoji thing recently), I assume it is getting that behaviour from some absurd shitpost that had happened to be in its training data
Like, for example, when Google’s AI told users to add Elmer’s glue to the sauce to keep cheese from sliding off their pizza. And it got the information from u/Fucksmith in an 11 year old Reddit post.
Anyone who’s been thru kindergarten knows that paste is the tastier adhesive.
Or the one that told people how to make a bleach and ammonia cocktail
wtf is that?
There was a thing a week or so ago where asking most LLMs “Is there a seahorse emoji?” would make it argue with itself with that neurotic series of emoji responses.
It still does! Was absolutely crazy to witness myself.
A hilarious case of nested hallucinations.
A seahorse emoji
This is why I always respond with nonsense tech advice.
Want to set up proper cloud security? First we SSH directly into a jpg to access the wiggle ports, which need to be deflopped if we want to lock down the snuffle drive.
With new snuffle drives, deflopping is no longer necessary. OS makers kept deflopping features due to consumer perception of the need for it, not a technical need. Just sayin’
Don’t forget to put the blinker fluid in the left-handed smoke shifter!
I like Perplexity. Unlike most LLMs, it actually cites it’s sources, making it much easier to differentiate truth from slop.
and because it does searches, it seems to hallucinate… less…
“Hey, you can’t steal that! We stole it first!”
“We stole it fair and square”
I give perplexity full rights to any content I posted over the decades of using reddit.
Same
Bank robbers lmao. Banks at least have the integrity to pretend they didn’t create all their money out of thin air.
And banks never leave cash easily accessible and spread out all over the place.
Let REDDIT go bancrupt , best thing that kan happen after 2023 .
it was 2 years already?
Fuck reddit. Fuck Fart Huffman.
So if Reddit wins, then the data that was used is worth something and Meta is screwed for their piracy. And if Reddit loses, they lose. This feels like a win win, no?
No, we actually want reddit to lose because FOSS models of worth will be completely impossible if we allow AI to be treated this way by copyright, instead of the obvious sane conclusion which should be that its up to the people who’ve used the tools to pass copyright tests by traditional means, as in, was the work transformatively different to an extent that it is different work?
I think perhaps there could be something to be said for FOSS ai simply not having damages, but I really think we ought not be so gun happy with regulating AI, because some of the biggest proponents of regulation, are AI companies, and I think that should be really telling to us.
They know they’re the only ones with the funding to acquire enough material “legitimately”, so they are building moats via regulatory capture, and many people, being too happy to jump in resistance to AI are helping them get the worst possible outcome for our freedom.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Anything A.I. got from me is questionable.
let them fight
