• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This is a very classic fallacy. In reality, if you dont fight back things will get worse anyways until nobody has the power to fight back. The longer you wait the harder it will be. Staying peaceful only makes sense as long as your opponent is peaceful. If they kill people and you dont fight back, then they take that as permission to kill more people.

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      General Strike now! Waiting only gives them time to weed out those that are willing to strike and cause trouble.

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        I see calls for it, but is there a start date and a primer on what it’d entail going around?

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          IIRC some of the big unions are timing contract expirations to line up for a strike in 2028, but IMO we can’t wait that long.

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            I think there are some legal limits to who can call a general strike and NOT go to prison. (Kind of doesn’t matter right now, as one can go to prison for being seen by the wrong people.)

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            I agree that it’s waaay too long. I should look into it myself once I’m out of work. If I find more, I’ll link you!

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        The trick with that is there needs to be significant financial backing to keep people fed even during a short strike.

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          You’re confusing a want with a need. Resistance doesn’t come without risk. The longer we wait the more we have to risk. Many are already going hungry and more will join them November 1st. If you wait for them to be fed before striking you’ll never start.

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            I’m saying that is why a lot of people won’t strike. “I have kids to feed today” will always beat “this will create a better world someday”.

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        I imagine many are like me and a general strike is absolutely terrifying as we would be fired immediately and the job market in the US it at it’s all time worst. I work in a at will state and my company is small, they would have no problem firing me and the rest of my workers wont strike as they are MAGA. So i’m stuck to protesting.

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      “Staying peaceful” and “fighting back” aren’t mutually exclusive. Anyone who thinks nonviolent tactics don’t work hasn’t read up on their history (East Timor, Philippines, etc.). Every time ICE shows up to pepper spray cops and shoot at priests, local police gets more pissed, and they drive a wedge between local and federal law enforcement, weakening the administration’s ability to project power. Don’t underestimate that opportunity.

      That being said, current actions are far more symbolic than transformative. No kings protests don’t do anything on their own, but could easily be leveraged into an enabler of things like boycotts and general strikes which will have a strong impact.